On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:32:46 -0700, "Jim Carew" <othmer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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><WilSuzanne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On May 14, 10:44 pm, Ted McMillan <t-m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 02:48:39 -0800, r...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>ALL A WASTE! YOU WON'T GET TO HEAVEN WITH
>>>>THE NON-CATHOLICS!- Hide quoted text -
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>>You won't go to Heaven unless you're Catholic.
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>Not according to what the Catechism of the Catholic Church
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>Catechism of the Catholic Church on Salvation
>outside the Church
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>846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often
>repeated by the Church Fathers?[Cf. Cyprian, Ep. 73.21:
>PL 3, 1169; De unit.: PL 4, 509-536.] Re-formulated
>positively, it means that all salvation comes from
>Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
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>Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council
>teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is
>necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator
>and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his
>body which is the Church. He himself explicitly
>asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and
>thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of
>the Church which men enter through Baptism as through
>a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing
>that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary
>by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter
>it or to remain in it.
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>And... 847-848
>847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who,
>through no fault of their own, do not know Christ
>and his Church:
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>Those who, through no fault of their own, do not
>know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who
>nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and,
>moved by grace, try in their actions to do his
>will as they know it through the dictates of their
>conscience - those too may achieve eternal
>salvation.[337]
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>(Example: A child educated in Protestant,
>Muslim, or Jewish surroundings would
>probably be invincibly ignorant of the
>Immaculate Conception)
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>See Items 841, 846, 847, 848, & 1793 in
>"The Catechism of the Catholic Church" at:
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>"http://www.kofc.org/faith/catechism/catechism.cfm"
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>"http://www.christusrex.org/www2/kerygma/ccc/searchcat.html"
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>848 "Although in ways known to himself God can
>lead those who, through no fault of their own,
>are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without
>which it is impossible to please him, the Church
>still has the obligation and also the sacred right
>to evangelize all men."[338]
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>Jim Carew sfo
He's a Jesuit! He can say anything even if the Catholic Church itself
doesn't sup****t it. Remember Stephen Korsman attacking Seventh-day
Adventism by attacking the Ten Commandments? Does Rome do that?
Remember Stephen Korsman sup****ted the Iraq War? Did Rome tell you
she sup****ts it?
TRUTH IS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN BY ROME, WHAT WILL SUZANNE
SAID IS IN FACT WHAT ROME ACTUALLY BELIEVES. LYING IS VITAL FOR THE
ANTICHRIST. IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT WILL SUZANNE WHO IS LYING!
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