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Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison

by Joseph Littleshoes <jpstifel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM

nocTifer wrote:

> lovely discussion, Hatter, Joseph.
>   
> Joseph Littleshoes <jpstifel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
> 
> 
>>Both religion and science have done great harm as well as good.  Which 
>>is why i am fond of Crowley's motto of his Equinox: "The method of 
>>science, the aim of religion."
> 
> 
> I'm familiar with the method of science ("the scientific method"), 
> but what is "the aim of religion"? is there only one? what is it?
> why is it laudible?
> 
> nocTifer

Of course i have no idea what Crowley might have thought he meant but to 
me the motto, taking Crowley's other writings on "Magick" into 
consideration, suggests an ongoing struggle to define a relation****p or 
even 'obligation' to a sense of deity that through the 'method of 
science' the understanding of constantly recedes.  Not unlike the 
science of astronomy, as our tools to observe the universe get bigger so 
does the universe exposed by them.

The more we learn about 'neuroscience' the more questions we have. 
Rather then settling for  dogma (religious or scientific) we question 
the assertions of the dogmatists.  Some of us have a, perhaps misplaced, 
faith that eventually science will get around to an 'scientific' 
explanation of the seemingly instinctual aspect of human nature to 
adore, and mythologize its existence.

Also, i think, one has to consider a progression of intellectual 
development, even if science is ultimately able to substantiate or prove 
the atheistic ideal of a random causeless universe, religion can be a 
necessary (however false) brake on sciences mad rush to trivialize and 
brutalize the human experience, perhaps at some point in human evolution 
these human will have the ability to wield power in a compassionate and 
thoughtful manner, until then, it seems to me, false or not, religion 
plays a significant role in at least trying to restrain science from its 
tendency to trivialize the individual.

Perhaps all Crowley meant was an 'enlightened' science that does not do 
more harm than good?
--
J (not a Luddite...yet:) L
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JL
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JL
 




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Re: How Logic Takes Leave When Gods Come Bearing Gifts
Hatter <Hatter23@[EMAI  2008-04-27 07:20:17 
Re: How Logic Takes Leave When Gods Come Bearing Gifts
Joseph Littleshoes <jp  2008-04-27 09:42:59 
Re: How Logic Takes Leave When Gods Come Bearing Gifts
jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 14:51:55 
Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-05-13 20:17:26 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 16:04:05 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-05-15 07:35:37 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 11:57:38 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-05-18 11:04:01 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-05-18 22:25:04 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:55:36 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-05-18 22:21:46 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:57:03 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-05-24 01:30:52 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-26 14:07:41 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-31 21:28:17 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-06-03 01:04:28 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-04 15:34:41 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-05 15:11:26 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-05 21:18:05 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-06-11 06:33:23 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-05-19 00:53:34 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
Joseph Littleshoes <jp  2008-05-15 12:34:29 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
James <bireda@[EMAIL P  2008-05-28 14:33:13 
Re: Science and Religion; Contrast and Comparison
jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-01 16:18:26 
Re: How Logic Takes Leave When Gods Come Bearing Gifts
nocTifer <yronwode.com  2008-04-29 00:44:12 
Re: How Logic Takes Leave When Gods Come Bearing Gifts
jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-05 14:44:10 

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