Re: Ben Stein's Movie EXPELLED - Could we have been "designed"

David Johnston wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:58:31 +0000, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique
> allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
> <tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> >> >So there's no possible way to discuss ID scientifically? What if
> >> >space aliens did affect the earth's biote? In this hypothetical,
> >> >you are excluding what actually happened from study. That doesn't
> >> >sound like what science is about.
> >>
> >> If you can't detect it, you can't study it.  Science requires
> >> observations, not merely truth.
> >>
> >What you are saying is that detection is impossible even in
> >principle, or you'd be arguing similarly against string theory.
> 
> String theory is a different but not particularly more complicated
> interpretation of the same observations as I understand it.
>
The reason that "string theory" meshes with reality is that there
are an infinite number of string theories and they just pick one
that fits all observations. That's very close to the "God did it"
idea because every time you give a Creationist some observation,
say fossils, he changes his "theory" to mesh with that, "God put
the fossils in there to trick us, he did."


>  Aliens
> on the other hand are a complication to the basic question that
> doesn't actually answer the question of how life originated.
>
But you don't get to define where and how life originated. It could
be that we came from alien DNA but that aliens evolved like we
figured we'd evolved. You don't get to decide what happened.


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