On Thu, 01 May 2008 08:26:01 GMT, jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(marques de
sade) wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:44:12 +0900, dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
>> Yet you want to believe that some supposed mindless force
>>has some significant though not deliberate influence on everything
>>in the universe at the same time...
>
>i don't want to believe anything.
Sure you do.
>i want to observe and draw
>conclusions from the observed data that i gather and record.
I hope you don't expect me to believe you're going around
gathering and recording data about whether or not God exists.
But if you want to pretend you are then try providing some
examples of it.
>>or at least that's the impression
>>I got from you. Then again you completely flip-flop from one idea
>>to another, and one belief to another.
>
>that could apply to just about every sentence ever uttered by any
>one individual at any time any where on earth, if dissected.
You said you believed in something and later backed away
from it. Now you can't admit it since you have already denied it.
>>I know you said you believed
>>in multiple lives for individuals at one point,
>
>i said that it was a neat way to look at the world. that i could
>appreciate the im****t which hindu religion made on society
No, that's not how it went. This is:
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From: jesucristo2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(marques de sade)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:45:50 GMT
Message-ID: <47bfeb2f.278794143@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Goo wrote:
>No one but Goo****wit believes in pre-existence.
i do too, but i don't connect it to veganism or try to imply
anything about vegans by it...
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>if
>people were always improving themselves in order to progress up
>the ladder.
From what I understand it's a cast system idea and they
are not supposed to try to improve their station in life, but
instead remain at the level they are born and do the best
they can in that position. Any progress to their position in
life would not occur until a future life, if then.
>even if it was symbolic, it had a positive effect, you
>feel me?
>
>> and then later denied it,
>>and then again recently you acted like you did believe it because
>>the energy would have to go someplace, or whatever.
>
>yeah. i prefer to look at it in a scientific sort of way and think
>of it as energy which disperses into the atmosphere. the soul
>stuff is just poetry to make our lives more bearable here on
>earth. nothing wrong with quiet meditation and prayer, etc...
But it's wrong to consider that there might be something
to pray to?
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