Re: Ben Stein's Movie EXPELLED - Could we have been "designed" by Space Aliens?

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:55:23 +0000, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique
allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
<tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


>> 
>> What if evolution could do it and an
>> >intelligence could do it too?
>> 
>> Then ID has nothing to offer.
>> 
>What you are saying is that it is *impossible* for any other force
>to have affected Earth's biote. I can't believe we know that.

I'm saying nothing of the kind.  It is self evident that other forces
have affected Earth's "biote".  Sunlight for example.  Meteorites.  
What I am saying however, is that aliens do not offer an answer to the
question "How did life originate" because the aliens are themselves
alive.  Using aliens is merely a pathetic attempt to avoid the
question.  Additionally, I'm saying there's no good reason to
postulate aliens have come to Earth until we detect some aliens.  

>
>> >> and such an intelligence would
>> >> itself be something complicated and "functional" there is no way to
>> >> avoid resorting to Goddidit if you accept the premise.  That's the
>> >> point.
>> >>
>> >What if God did it?
>> 
>> Then it is beyond our comprehension and not worth wasting time on.
>>
>Really? So your argument is that ID is a waste of time because God
>is too complicated? 

No, I never said God was complicated.  Merely being complicated does
not make something incomprehensible.  However, God is
incomprehensible, because It's filled with logical paradoxes.  Any
explanation that invokes God therefore contributes nothing to our
comprehension.