Re: Ben Stein's Movie EXPELLED - Could we have been "designed" by Space

David Johnston wrote:
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> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:11:44 +0000, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique
> allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
> <tributyltinpaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >David Johnston wrote:
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> >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:42:36 GMT, "Donald E. Flood"
> >> <Jehanne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >"dennisosm" <denniskriz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>news:e415c9c2-2423-4a43-93e8-ad1684c6c951@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Hi folks,
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> >> >> An implication from Ben Stein's movie "Expelled: No Intelligence
> >> >> Allowed" for me was that "intelligent design" _need not_ require
"God
> >> >> language" but simply a designer, the designer simply being an
older,
> >> >> higher intelligence -- "space aliens" ;-)
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> >> >Correct.  ID would not prove supernaturalism or the existence of
God.
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> >>  Since the premise of ID is that only an intelligence could create
> >> something complicated and "functional",
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> >Is that the "premise"?
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> Yes.
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> What if evolution could do it and an
> >intelligence could do it too?
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> Then ID has nothing to offer.
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What you are saying is that it is *impossible* for any other force
to have affected Earth's biote. I can't believe we know that.




> >> and such an intelligence would
> >> itself be something complicated and "functional" there is no way to
> >> avoid resorting to Goddidit if you accept the premise.  That's the
> >> point.
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> >What if God did it?
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> Then it is beyond our comprehension and not worth wasting time on.
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Really? So your argument is that ID is a waste of time because God
is too complicated? That's a novel use of the notion of complexity
precluding something.


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