On 27 Apr 2008 04:37:10 GMT, nocTifer <yronwode.com@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>panamfloyd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>panamfl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>jesucris...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(marques de sade) wrote:
>>>>>dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> >I don't believe your gods exist.
>>>
>>> Are you willing to admit your faith in that,
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>lack of belief is not a faith.
Why do you want--so very very badly--for lack of
belief and disbelief to be the same thing, do you have
even the slightest idea?
Do you deny your disbelief, admitting that you do
consider the possibility of God's existence even though
you are incredibly weak in that area?
or:
Do you deny that you consider the possibility of God's
existence, admitting that you do have faith he does not
exist?
>>> or are you ashamed
>>> to as the vast majority of strong atheists appear to be?
>
>your lack of understanding regarding faith doesn't change.
I have faith that the tooth fairy is a lie. I have faith that
the Earth will rotate at least 100 more times. Can you admit
your own faith in anything, or do you deny all of it?
>are you ashamed of your lack of understanding re faith?
>
>>It would appear the thought experiment has failed. You
>>speak of the existence of gods as if it is im****tant.
>>Since there is no evidence for such creatures, it is not.
>
>your assertion is not believed by the theist.
>
>>> >Just try to use your imagination for
>>> >a moment, and I'll attempt to explain to you how it sounds to us.
>>>
>>> I don't have to use my imagination because I do consider
>>> the possibility that God does not exist, as well as the possibility
>>> that he does.
>>
>>Which is an indicator of the deeper problem. You are still pondering
>>about whether or not gods exist.
>
>yes, dh is continually doing that, and never moves beyond such a
>consideration
Who do you think does, and how do you think you do it?


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