On Fri, 23 May 2008 09:34:19 GMT, Deborah <deborah@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>On Fri, 23 May 2008 01:53:28 -0700, MikeRyder <nono@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:25:18 GMT, Deborah <deborah@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>wrote:
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>>>On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:15:08 GMT, Gene <gene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>MikeRyder <nono@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>news:cpuc3419l4vehcr39hcspis1g64te2e0rb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> I dont put much stock in near death experiences. I believe
>>>>they are
>>>>> based in ego.
>>>>
>>>>Why?
>>>
>>>Yeah, why? People's lives have been turned around 180 degrees by such
>>>experiences. That's always a big signal to me that they've had a
>>>genuine spiritual/revelatory experience.
>>>
>>>Without that, people don't change dramatically, no matter how hard
>>>they think they try.
>>>
>>>Deborah (BC)
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>>I do put some stock in NDEs in that some people do seem have to a
>>joyous experience. Afterward they say they died. Still, there is
>>apparent form connected to what a person experiences. In George's
>>case, he saw the hospital room and I assume his body as well. It may
>>be that what George experienced was not a near death experience but
>>something else, maybe something as yet undefined.
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>Actually it's well defined. It's called an out of body experience.
>That is not the same as an NDE. An NDE goes a little further iinto
>reality. So it is harder to come back willingly. Most of the
>accounts of NDE's I've heard about nvolved a sense of being compelled
>to return.
>
>Deborah (BC)
PS: and that's where I have a real bone of contention with the course,
which says that all it takes to wake up and remember God is that we
wholly desire this. There have been lots of people, including myself,
who have had that window to Heaven opened up to them, and wanted
nothing else. But they weren't allowed to go home, despite the fact
they wholly desired to. I'm going to ask God about that if I ever get
the chance to. But as yet the only answer I've been able to decifer
is that we are supposed to pass our taste of heaven on to our brothers
before we go home.
Deborah (BC)
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