On May 6, 3:10=A0am, "m.a.z" <sonsat...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > All I've ever been able to do is realize that EVERYTHING I percieve
> > here is a choice between the ego's version of hell and the Holy
> > Spirit's version of heaven. I'm in the middle and get to choose either
> > all the time. I do believe the Holy Spirit's perception is as close to
> > truth as I can get on this earth. Maybe I wasn't clear before, all I
> > do is perceive the choice is mine and I get to live in the world I
> > choose. I'm not saying I make reality. I'm saying I get to live in the
> > reality I choose to live in by choosing who's eyes I want to see it
> > with. The loving one from the Holy Spirit's eyes or the painful one
> > from the ego's eyes. Am I making it more clear?
>
> Clear? Not to me.
Maybe I am a beginning course student. I don't know, as I have no idea
how much farther I have to travel.
All I care about is healing the split in my mind and becoming sane
again. I don't care if you are right and have a better way to do that
so please explain to me what exactly I need to do to accomplish this.
The healed mind I mean. I've explained what works for me up to now and
what I believe is a my way back. It is a very simple idea that puts me
in complete charge of how fast or how slow I go by my willingness to
listening to the Holy Spirit's perception that everything is perfect,
sinless and for my benefit. That's all I have to do and it seems very
simple to me. I'd say it was easy but the ego thinks it's insane to
believe this and fights on everything that it's not reality to believe
in everyone's sinlessness. I know now the ego lies.
I'm not understanding what you are saying is my part or my way back to
God and how are you accompli****ng it? What is your method? I'm try to
learn to see if i can do it your way.
>
> Unfortunately you sound and write like an enthusiastic beginning
> student giving your synopsis of course teachings. What I do know from
> experience is healing the mind is a gradual, and incremental because
> students have so much resistance to change.
>
> =A0I also know students will sometimes attempt to change their
> perception on their own to accord with what they read in the course
> and understand to be the the perception of the Holy Spirit, and then
> call that "listening to the Holy Spirit, or "perceiving with the Holy
> Spirit."
>
> As such its hardly likely that a beginning student is perceiving from
> a healed mind that everything and everyone is innocent and to his
> benefit. Why? =A0Because if the mind was healed the perception would be
> stable and you wouldn't have the notion of choice or constant choice.
>
> More likely this is what you wish to "believe" and "perceive," and
> rather than coming to that perception gradually, over time, through a
> series of miracles and mental healing --which would create stability
> of perception, you attempt to change your belief and perception, all
> at once, on your own, based on what you think you should believe and
> should perceive.
>
> However this approach only changes belief. And only beliefs of which
> you are aware. And only asserts that perception can be changed.
> Change does not mean perception is either stable or cannot revert back
> to the original perception. So in a crisis the ego =A0becomes strong,
> and suddenly you no longer perceive everything is perfect, sinless and
> to your benefit.
I'm certainly not perfect but I do believe I'm making progress.
>
> In Atonement or undoing, or miracles based error correction, the
> Fundamental thought system of sin is corrected at the causal level.
> That is the hidden level of beliefs which create beliefs, which in
> turn create perception and conscious beliefs, which in turn puts the
> mind in the grip of perception, and estranges the mind from Heaven and
> Knowledge where the mind knows and does not "believe."
>
> This miracles based healing is done incrementally at the causal level
> because a sudden, radical healing of the mind would be fearful and
> thus counter productive. The fundamental belief in lack which is the
> basis for the Thought System of sin and perception itself, is being
> undone at all levels and all permutations.
>
> This CANNOT be done by simply choosing to believe there is "no lack,"
> or reasoning there is no lack, or giving lip service that there is no
> lack, =A0Because "belief," itself is predicated on lack (as opposed to
> Knowledge and knowing) and as such even the highest beliefs are still
> affirming the reality of "lack."
>
> That is why the dreamer cannot awaken from the dream by believing she
> is dreaming. There is a lot more to it than "changing beliefs." And
> "beliefs," and "changing beliefs," are part of the dream and affirm
> the dream, and continue the dream. Changing beliefs are not sufficient
> to awaken from the dream.
>
> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an tem****ary expedient to give
> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
> which we generally use without awareness,
I believe we have to be AWARE to make the change. That it's our
choices now that make the change and heal the split.
and which creates a
> condition of perception while largely unaware perception is not the
> natural state of Mind.
>
> Hence the only "belief" you have to change is "belief in lack." =A0That
> you are here perceiving shows that you still believe in lack despite
> whatever you choose to believe and see. If you no longer believed in
> lack you couldn't maintain perception or maintain the world or
> maintain the body. You would awaken from the dream to Heaven.
This is the entire point! I'm not perfect I need to get out of the
dream! How? I've explained what I think works and how I've applied it
and some of the changes it has made in me. Please tell me an easier
simple way!
>
> Hence the question is how do you relinquish all belief in lack, when
> your very thoughts are predicated on belief in lack, and any belief at
> all asserts the reality of "lack." When you can answer that question,
> when you query the author or the Holy Spirit for that answer, then you
> will better understand the subtleties of miracles-based healing.
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