Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Religion > Buddhism II > Re: Shut Up, Si...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 216 of 1743 Topic 10438 of 11021
Post > Topic >>

Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead

by Dave K <dkotschess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM

On May 16, 10:04=A0am, RaaN <raan2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Okay so we have some focusing on one thing type meditation and then
> open receptive non-interactive awareness meditation. =A0

Technically calming (samatha) and insight (vipassana) are two
qualities that are developed in meditation, but these days meditation
teachers tend to teach them as being separate disciplines.  This is
OK, but it's im****tant to realize that they are complimentary.

> If I were to
> instruct you on how to pretend to be dead and to mimic death in every
> regard as long as possible both externally and internally how would I
> guide you? =A0Relax and slow breathing down to almost nothing. =A0Sit
> rather than lay to avoid sleep and snoring and movement etc since we
> are not trying to imitate sleep. =A0And sit in such a posture as to
> naturally not fall over with legs intertwined and locked the way one
> would a corpse one wishes to prop up. =A0If eyes are open they must
> remain focused on one point unmoving but not strained as the eyes of a
> corpse are directed at one thing but see nothing. =A0And all discomforts
> and sounds etc are to be ignored and not responded to. =A0To help one
> best achieve the outward illusion of death, one should try to be
> inwardly quiet the mind or failing that then to allow it to wander but
> not to interact with it as with even a corpse that may have some kind
> of chemical brain activity but no consciousness nor will. =A0And after
> long and arduous practice to enable you to relax to such a degree that
> no thoughts even arise and breathing so shallow as to be imperceptible
> and awareness so diffuse and non-responsive that you become dead even
> to your self, well honestly how is this to be distinguished from
> meditation other than that I have called it playing dead? =A0

Becase you're only describing the calming part, leaving out the
element of concentration.  If I'm not mistaken, corpses tend to have
very little if any concentration.

Furthermore the samatha (calming/concentration) part of the practice
is the preparation for the development of vipassana (insight).  There
are different opinions on whether one should develop more
concentration first, or do a little and go to insight, or not bother
with insight at all.  It depends on school, sect, teacher, and
inclination.

In traditional Buddhism there are lots of different objects for
insight, and you can find them by doing a search on vipassana
meditation.  In the zen tradition this is where koans or technically
used, or one may switch to ****kantaza (translated usually as "just
sitting") at this point.

I won't even begin to describe ****kantaza to you other than to say
that it is best done with a teacher who will do everything in their
power to keep one from lapsing in to corpse-ness or becoming
complacent.

> Doesn't it
> seem to be simply a total acceptance of death and a preparation for
> death so that one no longer has any fear of anxiety having gone
> willingly into the death state so often?

Sorry I don't have a reference, but I did once hear about a study that
said that regular meditators usually have a more healthy attitude
towards death, or tend to express less fear about it.  Part of the
fear of death is a fear of non-activity and meditators are much closer
to that on a regular basis.

If you read the Satipatthana Sutta that Evelyn quoted, there are
specific meditations on death.  One actually visualizes a corpose in
various stages of decay, reminding oneself that one's own body is
subject to the same sort of decay.

-DaveK
 




 1743 Posts in Topic:
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-04 06:57:36 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
norbu.tragri@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-04 05:25:12 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-05 02:04:48 
Re: Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-07 17:00:22 
Re: Real men don't eat lights... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-08 00:48:51 
Re: Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
small tortoiseshell <_  2008-05-07 18:55:21 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-09 00:37:44 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-09 04:01:57 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 10:00:10 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 09:29:38 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 10:45:27 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
dt <daletx@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 15:38:12 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Don Harvey Ignacia del En  2008-05-09 15:03:48 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-09 23:13:15 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
dt <daletx@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 09:27:24 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 10:43:39 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
dt <daletx@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 15:39:03 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"Thread Terminating   2008-05-09 22:42:48 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
dt <daletx@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 17:51:21 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-10 18:58:54 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-10 01:25:45 
Re: Nozy speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-10 01:46:16 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-10 00:16:43 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-14 04:30:13 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-15 02:15:28 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-14 04:43:27 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 21:19:38 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 00:59:03 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 05:59:22 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-20 16:34:06 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
jfezl07@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-28 17:20:03 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-28 18:28:46 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
w_tom <w_tom1@[EMAIL P  2008-05-26 17:57:06 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-26 21:39:01 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
tara <jackpine@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 22:02:14 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-26 23:30:29 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
tara <jackpine@[EMAIL   2008-05-27 11:21:51 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-27 16:39:28 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-27 21:23:46 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Hollywood Lee <leedill  2008-05-28 18:04:27 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-29 14:55:29 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 18:38:45 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 04:49:02 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-22 04:43:35 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 04:51:07 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 09:37:14 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-22 18:57:24 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-14 10:52:12 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Benjamin <eggplantonto  2008-05-14 14:07:16 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-15 02:34:58 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-15 02:33:51 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-19 12:03:33 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Uncle Weasel <xin@[EMA  2008-05-19 16:17:20 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-19 17:18:07 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-19 21:50:21 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-19 22:40:08 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-20 08:07:09 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-09 07:12:01 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Ron Fuller <rfuller@[E  2008-05-10 05:57:14 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-10 07:25:27 
Re: Tang & Jigme (was Re: Brick wall)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-09 20:28:12 
Re: Tang & Jigme (was Re: Brick wall)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-10 05:13:24 
Re: Blowing smoke up my ass (Re: No pains, no gains)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-10 22:29:11 
Re: Instant Post Hoc Karma at Work! (was Re: Tang & Jigme)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-11 07:22:07 
Re: Instant Post Hoc Karma at Work! (was Re: Tang & Jigme)
"Dork of Delusion&qu  2008-05-12 02:58:20 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-11 15:30:03 
Re: Blowing smoke up my ass (Re: No pains, no gains)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-12 00:59:21 
Re: Blowing smoke up my ass (Re: No pains, no gains)
Shirley Knott <shirley  2008-05-12 11:46:54 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
norbu.tragri@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-16 03:05:42 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-16 12:52:21 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
Uncle Weasel <xin@[EMA  2008-05-17 14:00:31 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
norbu.tragri@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-27 04:04:33 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
"Ned" <nedlu  2008-05-27 08:32:30 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-27 10:07:21 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
"Ned" <nedlu  2008-05-27 12:36:34 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-27 14:28:13 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
"Ned" <nedlu  2008-05-27 14:25:15 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-27 22:36:57 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-27 19:04:37 
Re: The dharmatroll is tang sub-thread
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-28 01:34:06 
Re: No pains, no gains (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 12:34:08 
Re: No pains, no gains (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-12 17:40:13 
Re: No pains, no gains (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 04:21:34 
Re: No pains, no gains (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-13 07:02:52 
Re: No pains, no gains (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-14 02:18:52 
Re: No pains, no gains (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-14 08:14:15 
Re: No pains, no gains (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-15 02:23:48 
Re: No pains, no gainz (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-12 16:03:10 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-12 16:34:50 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-04 10:50:37 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
lorr <lorr@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 17:33:24 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-09 14:11:09 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
lorr <lorr@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 17:41:05 
Re: No speeding trucksalooskis (was Re: Dramatrollery)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-09 17:01:43 
Re: No speeding trucksalooskis (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-10 12:31:27 
Triumphalism vs. Oprah (was Re: No speeding trucks)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-10 03:39:33 
Re: Triumphalism vs. Oprah (was Re: No speeding trucks)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-10 08:09:47 
Re: Triumphalism vs. Oprah (was Re: No speeding trucks)
Bill Pfeifer <billpfei  2008-05-10 20:31:27 
Re: Triumphalism vs. Oprah (was Re: No speeding trucks)
Uncle Weasel <xin@[EMA  2008-05-11 13:24:34 
Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No spee
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-10 03:58:34 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-11 11:22:18 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 15:03:20 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-11 20:12:55 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 19:31:22 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-11 15:06:09 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-12 20:03:54 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 04:50:48 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-20 02:40:56 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-13 12:25:20 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-14 02:53:01 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-14 10:57:48 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 09:46:07 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-23 04:33:01 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 21:40:06 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 21:44:01 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-14 20:31:26 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-14 21:03:25 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-16 07:14:56 
who or what you are [Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re:
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 10:18:51 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-16 22:12:59 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-17 09:55:17 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 12:38:06 
slimey weasel boy turns 8 years old today [ waz Re: Where rubber
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 17:22:48 
Re: who or what you are [Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-16 08:24:55 
slimey weasel boy spills the real beans [ waz Re: who or what yo
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 11:29:51 
Re: who or what you are [Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 10:37:02 
renli bails on his claims [ was Re: who or what you are [Re: Whe
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 12:02:40 
quilt metal gigilo inning illuminating
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 13:20:41 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-16 18:09:17 
excellent weaseling [ waz Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 00:32:11 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 07:28:34 
expound the expoundings [ waz Re: Where rubber meets the roader
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 08:43:19 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-18 03:49:23 
The origin (was Re: Where rubber meets the roader)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-17 07:36:19 
Re: The origin (was Re: Where rubber meets the roader)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-17 05:08:37 
renli keeps *who he is* a big secret [ waz Re: The origin (was R
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 08:22:14 
Re: The origin (was Re: Where rubber meets the roader)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-17 08:18:08 
Re: The original (was Re: Where rubber meets the roader)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 08:33:33 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-18 05:55:24 
the laughs continue [ waz Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-18 11:07:18 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-20 00:04:33 
Re: Tang & Jigme (was Re: Brick wall)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-10 07:19:27 
Re: Tang & Jigme (was Re: Brick wall)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-10 18:56:11 
Re: Trolling the Dorkosphere (was re: Tang & Jigme)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-12 01:06:56 
Re: Trolling the Dorkosphere (was re: Tang & Jigme)
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-12 04:16:36 
Re: Trolling the Dorkosphere (was re: Tang & Jigme)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 16:57:59 
Revenge of the Dork (was Re: Trolling the Dorkosphere)
"Dork of Delusion&qu  2008-05-12 05:58:49 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-12 14:53:19 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-12 18:53:28 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 11:43:49 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Benjamin <eggplantonto  2008-05-13 17:17:33 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-04 21:03:22 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-05 06:31:12 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-05 20:53:43 
Dramatrollery (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-06 07:22:08 
Re: Dramatrollery (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-06 16:11:58 
Re: Dramatrollery (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-06 17:36:39 
Re: Dramatrollery (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-06 19:35:27 
Re: Dramatrollery (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
"Ned" <nedlu  2008-05-06 21:14:23 
Re: Dramatrollery (was Re: Mindfulness practice explained)
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-07 08:40:01 
Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-07 18:09:05 
Re: Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-08 09:14:20 
Re: Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-08 18:35:39 
Re: Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-08 21:12:35 
Re: Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-09 03:32:14 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-10 23:04:26 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
"Allen L. Barker&quo  2008-05-11 02:24:34 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-11 09:23:02 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 03:33:33 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-12 00:48:38 
Re: Cats have 911 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7-11 Lives (was Re
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 00:59:38 
Re: Cats have 911 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7-11 Lives (was Re
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-12 01:11:54 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 05:03:28 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
jfezl07@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 12:19:30 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-11 18:17:46 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-11 07:13:46 
Re: Cats have 9 shaving Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 10:17:05 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-11 10:15:05 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 04:23:50 
Re: Mindfulness practice explained
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-07 03:25:32 
Re: Real men don't eat s... (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-11 14:54:19 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-09 17:58:55 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-09 23:09:36 
Re: Triumphalism vs. Oprah (was Re: No speeding trucks)
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-10 08:59:14 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
jfezl07@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-10 20:22:47 
Re: No speeding trucks (was Re: Dramatrollery)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-10 22:34:35 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-10 20:35:34 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-10 23:52:58 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-11 04:37:51 
Where rubber meets the road (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-11 07:26:27 
Re: Where rubber meets the road (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
liaM <cuddly@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-11 13:46:46 
Re: Where rubber meets the road (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-11 10:04:55 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 10:13:22 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 04:14:49 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 00:42:10 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 05:01:34 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 07:32:27 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-16 19:11:03 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-16 22:18:28 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 22:19:59 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-18 21:16:15 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-23 11:01:25 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-25 03:59:59 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-26 03:47:55 
Re: That tender age (was Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-30 16:47:07 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-18 21:38:14 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-19 07:25:01 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-19 11:33:43 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Benjamin <eggplantonto  2008-05-19 14:53:59 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-20 00:00:37 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 01:01:41 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 07:30:11 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-16 22:33:19 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Ali <lalala@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-17 11:33:48 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-18 04:45:06 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-16 10:47:32 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-23 04:43:10 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-23 08:35:07 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-24 03:48:01 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-23 04:51:45 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Hollywood Lee <hollywo  2008-05-23 05:57:56 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-24 03:48:49 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-23 08:25:06 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-24 04:12:07 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-16 18:25:32 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-16 21:40:06 
The lot (was Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-17 07:36:53 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-18 03:53:30 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 22:06:12 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-18 04:09:55 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 22:43:55 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Bill Pfeifer <billpfei  2008-05-16 23:56:13 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-17 06:22:49 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Uncle Weasel <xin@[EMA  2008-05-17 13:42:44 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Bill Pfeifer <billpfei  2008-05-17 10:49:59 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-18 04:13:40 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-17 13:02:38 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-18 20:41:58 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 06:23:33 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-16 17:55:58 
Re: Where rubber meets the road (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 03:49:37 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 14:29:49 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 14:40:06 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-15 18:20:20 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-15 20:43:46 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 06:14:18 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"Allen L. Barker&quo  2008-05-16 10:31:45 
Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 07:04:43 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-16 14:10:17 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 07:23:43 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-16 12:08:54 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-27 20:37:08 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-16 22:28:14 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-16 18:09:02 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-16 21:28:40 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-16 21:41:16 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 22:07:15 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 11:43:03 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
"Dork of Delusion&qu  2008-05-18 16:41:40 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 09:56:38 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 03:52:53 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 00:07:55 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 05:01:09 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 00:05:56 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 01:35:18 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 00:43:55 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 01:47:09 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 16:45:49 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 16:46:41 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-17 07:57:11 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 11:19:26 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 01:00:24 
The rope!
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-12 01:14:57 
Re: The rope!
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 16:47:59 
Re: The rope!
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-12 13:09:35 
Re: The rope!
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 12:17:02 
Re: The rope!
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-12 13:26:00 
Re: The rope!
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 12:42:24 
Re: The rope!
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 04:10:05 
Re: The rope!
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-13 00:26:51 
Re: The rope!
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 04:54:49 
Re: The rope!
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 04:56:56 
Re: The rope!
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-13 01:15:37 
Re: The rope!
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 15:14:49 
Re: The rope!
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 10:32:34 
Re: The rope!
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-14 02:33:49 
Re: The rope!
"Thread Terminating   2008-05-13 17:35:58 
Re: The rope!
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-14 02:40:58 
Re: The rope!
"Invisible Lurker&qu  2008-05-14 00:03:06 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 01:34:28 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 16:54:44 
Re: Too enlightened to care (was Re: Where rubber meets the road
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-18 07:20:59 
sandal face [ waz Re: Too enlightened to care (was Re: Where rub
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-18 10:27:10 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-18 19:51:32 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-17 06:09:06 
ego rambling extraordinaire [ waz Re: Where rubber meets the roa
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-17 09:19:06 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 09:05:28 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 11:18:36 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-17 18:59:02 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 21:22:41 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
small tortoiseshell <_  2008-05-18 01:38:26 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Renli <oliver.richman@  2008-05-18 05:43:43 
Too enlightened to care (was Re: Where rubber meets the roader)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-18 09:25:06 
Re: Too enlightened to care (was Re: Where rubber meets the road
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-18 10:12:35 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 10:24:27 
Re: Where rubber meets the roader (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 10:27:26 
Re: Where rubber meets the road (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 03:44:35 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-15 18:05:20 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-11 07:30:41 
Re: Cats have 9 Lives; Stream Enterers have 7 Lives (was Re: No
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 03:48:53 
Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the roa
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-15 02:52:05 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-15 16:16:03 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
"Dork of Delusion&qu  2008-05-17 10:16:43 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 09:51:20 
Re: Meditation for Physicalists (was Re: Where rubberz meets the
"Dork of Delusion&qu  2008-05-17 12:49:57 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 09:35:29 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-16 03:39:15 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 22:52:16 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-27 17:17:39 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-28 01:40:32 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-20 12:44:56 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-22 04:01:25 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-22 06:48:00 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-23 04:08:40 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-23 00:31:49 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-23 05:22:20 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-23 01:31:35 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-23 05:42:21 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-23 08:49:10 
deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Pla
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-24 00:31:41 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-24 07:29:51 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-24 09:30:28 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-24 14:09:04 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"possum" <ze  2008-05-24 18:32:57 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-24 14:12:14 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"possum" <ze  2008-05-24 23:28:08 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-24 21:01:48 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"possum" <ze  2008-05-25 04:03:20 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-25 03:20:46 
Re: deep **** up to our eyebrows [ waz Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and
"possum" <ze  2008-05-27 00:54:39 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-23 08:42:31 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-24 04:04:07 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
"Evelyn" <ev  2008-05-24 14:15:21 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-25 03:22:01 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead
Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-23 10:58:43 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
DharmaTroll <dharmatro  2008-05-24 12:50:41 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play repugnican Dead
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-25 03:24:40 
Re: Shut Up, Sit Down and Play Dead (was Where rubberz meets the
Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-25 10:16:05 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 09:37:45 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-15 16:19:47 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-16 04:00:11 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 09:42:25 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)
"Allen L. Barker&quo  2008-05-15 18:16:03 
Re: Where rubberz meets the roadz (was Re: Cats have 9 Lives)