On May 15, 2:25 am, "possum" <zen102...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Wompom" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 14, 2:45 pm, "Jakub A. Krzewicki"
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> > =B6roda, 14 maja 2008 09:11. carbon entity 'Peter Terpstra'
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> > > Jakub A. Krzewicki in <g0dhrv$9n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> And what about karma? This disaster which met the
> > >> Chinese people was
> > >> actually caused by the actions of the Chinese
> > >> government.
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> > > Karma has nothing to do with this as far as i know,
> > > earthquakes are not
> > > caused by human karma but by nature.
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> > > Kind regards,
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> > > Peter
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> > There is also some collective karma of nations.
>
> Opinions differ on this. I think the Buddhist concept of
> individual
> karma is instructive and easy to understand and helpful i.e.
> the
> notion of individual intention, action and consequences. The
> popular
> Western notion of Karma however seems to be mixed up with
> concepts
> from Hinduism and new age thinking. 'Collective Karma'
> particularly
> can, imo, seem fatalistic, or in this particular instance,
> like some
> wrath of an old testament God. Thus I personally find the
> concept of
> 'Collective Karma' tending to the pernicious and at best
> unhelpful
> (and I am not sure if its really a Buddhist notion of Karma
> at all).
>
> In China, imo, there are individuals generating positive,
> negative and
> neutral karma but the web of consequences is far too complex
> to call.
> And strangely, small individual acts could have massive
> consequences
> for example if China engineered an equitable settlement over
> Tibet the
> positive effects could be profound (and yet the actions
> leading to
> this may be of only a very few individuals).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
>
> Anyhow that's my view fwiw, yours may be different...
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> hi stef
>
> maybe the butterfly effect is why sid said don't even go
> there?
> i concluded he was probably right and try not to think about
> it, but of course i do sometimes, but it never gets you
> anywhere.
Indeed it's headachesville man.
> what about zeitgeist? what's that all about i wonder.
Depends on your POV and can change in a moment.
> synchronicity...?
Maybe yes maybe no, maybe.
> anyway, i sometimes think everything everything's happening
> in step or in tune, and then i don't.
Hormones dear!
(and you think I am joking ;-)
>
> china? prolly best way to sort out the tibet pain is if
> china get into burma and do good... : )
> like i'd know...
> : )
> possum
ditto
(shall we put flowers in our hair?)
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