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Re: Selling Points of the Major Religions

by Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1999@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2008 at 07:38 AM

On May 12, 5:16=A0pm, Free Lunch <lu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus


> I don't have religious beliefs. How hard is that for you to comprehend?
> I accept the discoveries about nature that have been made. I accept what
> scientists have learned and what society has developed, but I don't
> accept religious claims about gods because there is no reason to

Why do you accept what "scientists" -- whatever those are, exactly --
have "learned"?  How do you know what they claim is true, IS true?
How is your faith in "scientists" any different from a faith in
"Gods".  Aren't scientists, effectively, your Gods, by your own
admission.  If not, how exactly do they differ from Gods.  You claim
scientists speak truth.  The religious claim that their religion is
truth.  They have their standards of evidence.   You have yours.
There is no difference, except in terminology, and some details of
belief.

Please understand.  I am not saying everything in any religion is
true.  I am saying that some things in some religions may well be
true.  And some claims of "scientists" -- whoever they are -- may be
false.  And that there does not exist any perfect method for
distingui****ng truth from falsehood, scientific or otherwise.  So, at
some point, we are thrown back on intuition, and the "supernatural",
if you wish.  We have nothing else.  No one has a monopoly on truth.
 




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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-11 13:28:53 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-05-11 13:42:30 
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duke <duckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-05-12 15:33:47 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-16 07:38:39 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-05-16 17:26:35 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-19 07:32:35 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-20 08:23:47 
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"Pink Freud" &l  2008-05-20 15:29:03 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-05-20 17:44:22 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-20 08:26:46 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-20 08:36:34 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-05-11 15:44:34 
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flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 22:43:16 
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Richard Corfield <Rich  2008-05-11 23:32:30 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-05-11 13:54:12 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-05-11 16:06:43 
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Tokay Pino Gris <tokay  2008-05-12 00:14:11 
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Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-05-11 18:19:54 
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flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 22:42:37 
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DanielSan <danielsan19  2008-05-11 16:04:37 
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beelzebub <yank_ees_su  2008-05-12 19:55:34 
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beelzebub <yank_ees_su  2008-05-12 22:10:45 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-05-12 23:13:31 
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Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-05-12 22:50:21 
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