Re: Blowing smoke up my ass (Re: No pains, no gains)

On May 10, 5:41 pm, "possum" <zen102...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 10, 3:08 pm, "possum" <zen102...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "DharmaTroll" <dharmatr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 10, 9:44 am, ****rley Knott
> > <****rleykn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > wrote:
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> > > Tang Huyen wrote:
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> > > > ****rley Knott wrote:
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> > > >> I quit smoking for 3 years but went, very
> > > >> reluctantly,
> > > >> back on the
> > > >> coffin nails a year ago because quitting had
> > > >> exacerbated my medical
> > > >> symptoms to such a point that a prognosis of future
> > > >> cancer was better to
> > > >> my quality of life than the hideous symptoms I was
> > > >> experiencing.
>
> > > >> My doctor is wryly amused but agrees, smoking is good
> > > >> for me! :-)
>
> > > > Freud famously smoked cigars, and got throat
> > > > cancer. He stopped, but the pains of withdrawal
> > > > were intense, so he decided to go back to them.
> > > > To him the gains of smoking were greater than
> > > > the harms of withdrawal. Doctors kept operating
> > > > on the inside of his throat, and by the time he
> > > > gave up the ghost, most of the inside of his
> > > > upper throat had been removed.
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> > > > Tang Huyen
>
> > > For me this wasn't a case of craving cigs.  In fact,
> > > although I'm
> > > smoking I hate the taste but it does seem to regulate
> > > some
> > > of the
> > > endocrine problems I experience through neurological
> > > illness.
>
> > > I think my doctor is brilliant, he says that if
> > > something
> > > works that
> > > well it's worth pursuing and trying to gain the same
> > > effect from
> > > prescribed medication would probably produce unwanted
> > > side
> > > effects
> > > that the tobacco isn't.
>
> > > So, all-in-all, it's a great result!
>
> > Strange.  I would think it would be well worth pursuing
> > prescribed
> > medication that would avoid the unwanted horrible and
> > often
> > fatal side-
> > effects of the cigarette smoking!
>
> > From the abstract of the article to which Lee linked:
>
> > "Smoking affects pituitary, thyroid, adrenal, testicular
> > and
> > ovarian
> > function, calcium metabolism and the action of insulin.
> > The
> > major
> > salient clinical effects are the increased risk and
> > severity
> > of
> > Graves=92 hyperthyroidism and opthalmopathy, osteo****osis
> > and
> > reduced
> > fertility. Smoking also contributes to the development of
> > insulin
> > resistance and hence type 2 diabetes mellitus. An
> > im****tant
> > concern is
> > also the effect of smoking on the foetus and young
> > children.
> > Passive
> > transfer of thiocyanate can cause disturbance of thyroid
> > size and
> > function. Furthermore, maternal smoking causes increased
> > catecholamine
> > production, which may contribute to under perfusion of the
> > foetoplacental unit."
>
> > Sounds like your doc might be pissed off because he hasn't
> > received
> > his usual supply of free samples and all-expense-paid
> > dinners from the
> > pharmaceutical companies.  In all seriousness, I know
> > pharmaceutical
> > companies are overly demonized, but they save tons of
> > lives
> > and spend
> > tons of money on very well-done research (unlike the
> > quackery and
> > pseudoscientific remedies sought out by their strongest
> > critics).  To
> > want to ingest poison that will give you god knows how
> > many
> > cancers
> > and may kill you in the end, to avoid trying out the
> > latest
> > medicine
> > that has had tons of research and development and clinical
> > trials
> > behind them is absurd, don't you think?
>
> > I know -- get the real medicine, but have it disguised as
> > candy, and
> > then get Lee to convince you that it will prevent nuclear
> > war.  Then
> > you can stop smoking, deal with your illness, and save the
> > world --
> > all in one fell swoop.  Brilliant!
>
> > *****************************************
> > ****rley's already got a brilliant recipe -
>
> > "So, if you want to save to save the world, eat crap while
> >  laying on the couch indulging every vice you can and die
> > before dementia! Yipeee!"
>
> > --DharmaTroll
>
> Um, possum, why did you put my signature at the end of your
> post? I
> didn't say that.
> --DharmaTroll
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> oh well i didn't put it there, i carelessly and
> thoughtlessly left it there, while i was bothering about the
> little reply arrows not working on your post, i don't know
> why that happens.
>
> don't worry, it's not a conspiracy  : )
>
> possum

It's not a conspiracy?  Well, shhhh. Don't tell Keynes.  It'll spoil
the fun.