On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:07:05 GMT, lorr <lorr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 May 2008 17:08:27 -0700, jfezl07 wrote:
>
>> On 7 May, 20:22, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> jfez...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> > On 7 May, 08:25, tara <jackpine@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:43:34 -0400, Robert Epstein wrote (in article
>>> >><Gz9Uj.23847$qW.13089@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>>
>>> >>>tara wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>On Tue, 6 May 2008 11:25:04 -0400, Robert Epstein wrote (in
article
>>> >>>><kL_Tj.7065$zw.3867@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>>
>>> >>>>>tara wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>On Mon, 5 May 2008 16:51:41 -0400, Robert Epstein wrote (in
>>> >>>>>>article <xrKTj.3015$0L.832@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>pseudomodo wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>Pipe smokers don't suffer the disease rate of cigarette
>>> >>>>>>>>smokers.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>Check on the lip mouth and throat cancer stats for them. Not
>>> >>>>>>>good. Also, a large percentage inhale and get lung cancer as
>>> >>>>>>>well.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>My dad was a pipe smoker all his life, and then in his early
>>> >>>>>>seventies, he
>>> >>>>>>got cancer of the throat. He also smoked cigars, but only on
>>> >>>>>>occasion. His
>>> >>>>>>pipe was always in his mouth from his late teens till then. He
>>> >>>>>>had lots of
>>> >>>>>>pipe paraphernalia. I remember when he learned that he had
throat
>>> >>>>>>cancer, he
>>> >>>>>>ritually threw every bit of it out.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>He did survive by the way, but the 'cure' did affect his quality
>>> >>>>>>of life.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>At
>>> >>>>>>the end of his life at 86 he couldn't speak because of the nerve
>>> >>>>>>damage from
>>> >>>>>>the radiation.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>tara
>>>
>>> >>>>>That is very tough. Luckily, my Dad stopped smoking his pipe
some
>>> >>>>>years ago, after about 30 years, first 15 of non-stop cigs, then
>>> >>>>>the constant pipe for another 15. One day his throat started
>>> >>>>>hurting and he got furious at himself, and stopped right then and
>>> >>>>>there, never smoked again.
>>>
>>> >>>>smart man, and lucky.
>>>
>>> >>>>I doubt he'd still be around at 88 if he hadn't quit. For a
>>>
>>> >>>>>little while there, he loved his pipe more than any one of us.
We
>>> >>>>>just accepted that the pipe came first. :)
>>>
>>> >>>>same in our house :). I loved the smell of his pipe tobacco.
>>>
>>> >>>me too.
>>>
>>> >>>guess the name of his tobacco?
>>>
>>> >>>revelation. ha ha,
>>>
>>> >>>guess it presaged my interest in mysticism.
>>>
>>> >>haha, who knows, eh.
>>>
>>> >>>I can still sort of smell it in my mind; smelled especially good
>>> >>>when it *wasn't* burning.
>>>
>>> >>>>>I smoked cigarettes myself for over ten years. Started young to
>>> >>>>>"be cool" and quit in my mid-20s, just to give you an idea of how
>>> >>>>>young I started. We used to forge notes from our parents to buy
>>> >>>>>cigarettes at the local store.
>>>
>>> >>>>sounds like you and I started out the same. I started at 15.
>>>
>>> >>>13. Hate to admit it. Yeesh!
>>> >>>how "cool" was I. [read: stupid.]
>>>
>>> >>Who isn't stupid at 13, or 15 for that matter, eh ;)
>>>
>>> >>>At least I resisted the half a tab of acid that some 20 year old on
>>> >>>the street wanted to split with me. I think at 13 that would have
>>> >>>had a pretty severe permanent effect.
>>>
>>> >>Yeah. I was in art school and totally surrounded by all kinds of
>>> >>drugs and I don't know why but I just passed on all but grass. But
>>> >>nice that none of my friends thought I was uncool because of that.
>>>
>>> >>>But grass and cigarettes were fun for a while. <cough>
>>>
>>> >>:)
>>>
>>> >>tara
>>>
>>> >>>Robert
>>>
>>> >>>= = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>>
>>> > The shop close to our school used to sell loosies (loose cigs) a bit
>>> > obvious when you had your school uniform on eh? Two puffs and your
>>> > legs went to jelly. I've stopped twice for 6 months each time but
>>> > started again. It's such a great feeling to get rid of them I felt
>>> > allot stronger and I could actually taste my mouth. :)
>>>
>>> well you of all people should be able to quit!
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> robert
>>>
>>> = = = =
>>
>> The problem always was going out for a drink with friends who smoked.
>> The more beers the more likely I was to scrounge one off them.
>
>I don't drink or do drugs myself, but it would be inhospitable to refuse.
That's ok.
When you are out of your depth
you can just sit on your thumb and rotate.
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