On Thu, 08 May 2008 17:08:27 -0700, jfezl07 wrote:
> On 7 May, 20:22, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> jfez...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> > On 7 May, 08:25, tara <jackpine@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >>On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:43:34 -0400, Robert Epstein wrote (in article
>> >><Gz9Uj.23847$qW.13089@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>
>> >>>tara wrote:
>>
>> >>>>On Tue, 6 May 2008 11:25:04 -0400, Robert Epstein wrote (in article
>> >>>><kL_Tj.7065$zw.3867@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>
>> >>>>>tara wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>On Mon, 5 May 2008 16:51:41 -0400, Robert Epstein wrote (in
>> >>>>>>article <xrKTj.3015$0L.832@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>>
>> >>>>>>>pseudomodo wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>Pipe smokers don't suffer the disease rate of cigarette
>> >>>>>>>>smokers.
>>
>> >>>>>>>Check on the lip mouth and throat cancer stats for them. Not
>> >>>>>>>good. Also, a large percentage inhale and get lung cancer as
>> >>>>>>>well.
>>
>> >>>>>>My dad was a pipe smoker all his life, and then in his early
>> >>>>>>seventies, he
>> >>>>>>got cancer of the throat. He also smoked cigars, but only on
>> >>>>>>occasion. His
>> >>>>>>pipe was always in his mouth from his late teens till then. He
>> >>>>>>had lots of
>> >>>>>>pipe paraphernalia. I remember when he learned that he had throat
>> >>>>>>cancer, he
>> >>>>>>ritually threw every bit of it out.
>>
>> >>>>>>He did survive by the way, but the 'cure' did affect his quality
>> >>>>>>of life.
>>
>> >>>>>>At
>> >>>>>>the end of his life at 86 he couldn't speak because of the nerve
>> >>>>>>damage from
>> >>>>>>the radiation.
>>
>> >>>>>>tara
>>
>> >>>>>That is very tough. Luckily, my Dad stopped smoking his pipe some
>> >>>>>years ago, after about 30 years, first 15 of non-stop cigs, then
>> >>>>>the constant pipe for another 15. One day his throat started
>> >>>>>hurting and he got furious at himself, and stopped right then and
>> >>>>>there, never smoked again.
>>
>> >>>>smart man, and lucky.
>>
>> >>>>I doubt he'd still be around at 88 if he hadn't quit. For a
>>
>> >>>>>little while there, he loved his pipe more than any one of us. We
>> >>>>>just accepted that the pipe came first. :)
>>
>> >>>>same in our house :). I loved the smell of his pipe tobacco.
>>
>> >>>me too.
>>
>> >>>guess the name of his tobacco?
>>
>> >>>revelation. ha ha,
>>
>> >>>guess it presaged my interest in mysticism.
>>
>> >>haha, who knows, eh.
>>
>> >>>I can still sort of smell it in my mind; smelled especially good
>> >>>when it *wasn't* burning.
>>
>> >>>>>I smoked cigarettes myself for over ten years. Started young to
>> >>>>>"be cool" and quit in my mid-20s, just to give you an idea of how
>> >>>>>young I started. We used to forge notes from our parents to buy
>> >>>>>cigarettes at the local store.
>>
>> >>>>sounds like you and I started out the same. I started at 15.
>>
>> >>>13. Hate to admit it. Yeesh!
>> >>>how "cool" was I. [read: stupid.]
>>
>> >>Who isn't stupid at 13, or 15 for that matter, eh ;)
>>
>> >>>At least I resisted the half a tab of acid that some 20 year old on
>> >>>the street wanted to split with me. I think at 13 that would have
>> >>>had a pretty severe permanent effect.
>>
>> >>Yeah. I was in art school and totally surrounded by all kinds of
>> >>drugs and I don't know why but I just passed on all but grass. But
>> >>nice that none of my friends thought I was uncool because of that.
>>
>> >>>But grass and cigarettes were fun for a while. <cough>
>>
>> >>:)
>>
>> >>tara
>>
>> >>>Robert
>>
>> >>>= = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>
>> > The shop close to our school used to sell loosies (loose cigs) a bit
>> > obvious when you had your school uniform on eh? Two puffs and your
>> > legs went to jelly. I've stopped twice for 6 months each time but
>> > started again. It's such a great feeling to get rid of them I felt
>> > allot stronger and I could actually taste my mouth. :)
>>
>> well you of all people should be able to quit!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> robert
>>
>> = = = =
>
> The problem always was going out for a drink with friends who smoked.
> The more beers the more likely I was to scrounge one off them.
I don't drink or do drugs myself, but it would be inhospitable to refuse.
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