On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:03:51 -0700 (PDT), Renli <oliver.richman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>On May 5, 9:59 pm, Ali <lal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 17:01:12 -0700 (PDT), Awaken21
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>> <lukecar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >On May 3, 11:06 am, Renli <oliver.rich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On May 3, 11:00 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > Those are a lot of tests to pass! :)
>>
>> There's really only one.
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>> >> Especially considering that the long and short of it is, that it is
>> >> not possible to discern with 100% accuracy if someone is enlightened
>> >> or not if you are not enlightened yourself.
>>
>> >Even if you are it might not be possible.
>>
>> That's silly.
>>
>> >The master decides weather
>> >or not reveal himself, other masters know that much.
>>
>> I don't think so. The master is bound to appear by the readiness of
>> the seeker. Kind of like a court summons. The master does not turn his
>> light on or off, either. It's a constant...in my experience.
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>Sure, but "bound" to appear? Can you elaborate on what binds him? Is
>it really a binding of this sort?
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Sufis make an issue of 'learning how to learn'.
That's got to be the first step. Having that,
all the world's a teacher. One chinese master
said he would learn from the wise no matter what
their age or experience. Jesus recommended that
we must become as little children to enter the
kingdom of heaven. We have to give up a life
of crime before pleading innocent. Sophistication
leads on and on, but never arrives anywhere.
There's nothing to know. But who can believe it?
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