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Cheap thrills (was Re: Interiority? Or inter-relatedness?)

by Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{delete}@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 06:56 AM

Raymond wrote:

> RaaN:
>
> >Raymond:
>
> >> "ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
":
>
> >> >The self is like an arrow in flight. If we look at it at any time,
it
> >> >is an illusion and can be dropped. But this is also an illusion.
>
> >> How can the realization of illusion be an illusion itself?  Is the
> >> dreamer still dreaming when he wakes up? or has the dreamer waken up
> >> yet?
>
> >It can be an illusion itself if realization is also illusory and
> >awakening is like a lucid dream rather than any actual awakening so
> >the dream persists despite a dream realization that it is a dream.
> >One might be awake but on LSD and think one is having a waking dream.
> >So what then is awakening at all but another delusion?
>
> Since cheap awakening is a dime a dozen in this day and age, who
> cares?
>
> :-)

On the theory of the universal Buddha-nature,
awakening is basic and universal, therefore it
is not just a dime a dozen but flat-out free. It
is the default, inalienable state, which we could
not drive away if we wanted to.

Even so, why bother, especially about
distingui****ng between awakening and delusion
or whatever? Better just relax and be serene.
Actually, such a blasé attitude would be
perfectly at home with the Buddha-nature,
wouldn't it? The Buddha-nature would be
inherent to it, like built-in, wouldn't it? They
would fit each other like hand and glove,
wouldn't they?

Tang Huyen
 




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Interiority? Or inter-relatedness?
"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-25 05:21:07 
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Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-01 10:18:32 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-05 05:05:32 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 09:28:38 
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Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-01 10:41:13 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9j=E0_F  2008-05-01 19:07:32 
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oxtail <oxtail@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 19:23:57 
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=?UTF-8?B?RMOpasOgIEZsdQ=  2008-05-01 20:25:51 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-01 17:43:25 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 07:01:28 
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"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 10:31:23 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-04 01:02:26 
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Dave K <dkotschess@[EM  2008-05-02 06:38:21 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-02 09:46:56 
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Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-03 10:23:19 
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Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 10:18:33 
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"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 11:32:18 
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Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 10:40:01 
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"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-03 12:57:58 
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Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 09:40:49 
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Bill Pfeifer <billpfei  2008-05-05 22:41:01 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-03 07:33:10 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 22:38:39 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-04 01:13:04 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 12:10:55 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-04 03:39:20 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-05 16:30:41 
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RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 18:38:52 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 23:24:40 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-03 08:33:43 
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RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 14:16:19 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 05:52:58 
Cheap thrills (was Re: Interiority? Or inter-relatedness?)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-04 06:56:23 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 07:02:07 
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Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-04 07:26:13 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 07:51:29 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-05 02:03:51 
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fred kepler <fkepler@[  2008-05-04 14:05:21 
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jfezl07@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 19:30:04 
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"possum" <ze  2008-05-07 03:34:38 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-06 19:31:36 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-07 03:51:19 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 06:40:42 
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jfezl07@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 19:52:52 
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"possum" <ze  2008-05-07 04:10:46 
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"possum" <ze  2008-05-07 04:12:05 
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"possum" <ze  2008-05-07 04:16:35 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-06 20:56:41 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-07 04:31:59 
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RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 14:24:52 
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RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 08:05:07 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 14:12:48 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-04 18:18:00 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-05 02:26:24 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-04 18:27:03 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 05:06:51 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-04 18:45:18 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 06:06:12 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-05 04:04:07 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 07:36:44 
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RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 18:25:03 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 23:37:07 
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RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 18:27:19 
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tara <jackpine@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 21:42:07 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-07 03:22:57 
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tara <jackpine@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 11:25:06 
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"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-07 16:53:21 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-08 03:17:42 
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"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-08 09:27:16 
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dt <daletx@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 14:52:30 
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"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-08 17:12:58 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 23:30:47 
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RaaN <raan2000@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 18:32:04 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-05 18:34:33 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 23:31:42 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-05 19:50:19 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-06 15:58:12 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 19:22:01 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-07 03:49:43 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-06 16:18:58 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-07 04:28:54 
Really cheap spirituality (was Re: Cheap thrills)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-05-07 07:42:26 
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Keynes <Keynes@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 12:08:49 
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Ron Fuller <rfuller@[E  2008-05-08 03:30:57 
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"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-07 11:16:09 
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norbu.tragri@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-07 05:34:07 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-07 05:40:56 
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"^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-07 10:17:08 
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Awaken21 <lukecarlos@[  2008-05-11 14:22:11 
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"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-11 21:37:12 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-12 04:50:59 
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"Evelyn Ruut" &  2008-05-12 06:50:11 

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