On May 4, 11:48 am, Keynes <Key...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 20:19:19 -0700 (PDT), Renli
<oliver.rich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >On May 4, 1:38 am, "KittyP" <kittyp2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >> That was written quite prettily.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >> But why must I or anyone else look for
> >> truth or lies when talking about another person's yearning for
awakening?
>
> >It isn't always necessary to do so. I kind of felt like it was the
> >right time to bring it up though, in the reply. I was thinking about
> >such concepts for a while anyways, so maybe I wanted to attach them
> >here and see if they were applicable.
>
> >> Perhaps all that most of us can do is to find the integrity of our
own
> >> truth.
>
> >> The very concepts of perfection and failure are illusions (just try
to get
> >> more than a few people to agree on the meaning of either one) and
those
> >> particular illusions seem especially distancing from right action.
>
> >It depends on context, which also touches on the answer above "it
> >isn't always neccessary"... For example, perfection or failure - what
> >is a "perfect ten"? What is a "perfect day"? The answer to one is easy
> >to understand, the answer to the other depends on a further context.
> >That's how I feel about it anyways.
>
> >> Where is
> >> the right action in getting another person to emotionally crash and
burn
> >> unless there is an explicit or implicit agreement between a teacher
and
> >> student?
>
> >That's a very good question. If you try to force feed others when they
> >are full, they'll just get sick and throw up anyways. How does that
> >help, indeed.
>
> >Take me for instance. I feel I have a lot to offer, so to speak. But I
> >am nobody's teacher (well, actually, that is an incredible
> >understatement, I've taught thousands of people many different things,
> >even in a formal setting)... But.. here, for instance, I am nobody's
> >teacher. So what do I do if I want to teach someone something? I
> >approach it in a different way. There are rules. Social rules. Not for
> >me, for others. Right? You answer questions, you are polite, you get
> >along with people, I suppose, in a non-committal sort of way, of
> >course, there's no need to pick up baggage... but you deal with people
> >in the way they want. If they ask questions, if they seek you out,
> >then yes it becomes a teacher student relationship, even to the point
> >where it is agreed upon, and then things become a different story. But
> >here on this newsgroup, insults flying, people making lots of funny
> >accusations based on whims and lies, the method is wrongly applied..
> >everything is wrong.. most of what people say is wrong here... it's
> >very strange. In a land where all connections to any sort of reality -
> >whatsoever - have been cut, and only words remain, we are discussing
> >something like zen.. funny :)
>
> >-
>
> You were expecting sobriety?
Wait, gimme a minute - I'm still laughing over contemplating the term
pie hole.
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