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Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)

by Robert Epstein <vze256xu@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 24, 2008 at 07:18 PM

small tortoiseshell wrote:

> On Apr 24, 10:06 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>>small tortoiseshell wrote:
>>
>>>I usually dont pay attention to trials like that but i think i will
>>>with this one. Its messy it seems and the u.s involvement in the whole
>>>thing might explain why his old buddy  is doing the defense as well.
>>>He probably wants it all on the table.
>>>well, i dont know really, just spinning on something i usually dont.
>>>Rant finished :)
>>
>>>"The US not only helped to create conditions that brought Cambodia's
>>>Khmer Rouge to power in 1975, but actively sup****ted the genocidal
>>>force, politically and financially. By January 1980, the US was
>>>secretly funding Pol Pot's exiled forces on the Thai border. The
>>>extent of this sup****t -- $85 million from 1980-86 -- was revealed 6
>>>years later in correspondence between congressional lawyer Jonathan
>>>Winer, then counsel to Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) of the Senate Foreign
>>>Relations Committee and the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation."
>>
>>>"In 1981, Pres. Carter's national security adviser Zbigniew
>>>Brzezinski, said, "I encouraged the Chinese to sup****t Pol Pot. The
>>>US", he added, "winked publicly" as China sent arms to the Khmer
>>>Rouge(KR) through Thailand."
>>
>>>"In 1980, under US pressure, the World Food Program handed over food
>>>worth $12 million to the Thai Army to pass on to the KR. According to
>>>former Assistant Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke,'20,000 to
>>>40,000 Pol Pot guerrillas benefited. This aid helped restore the KR to
>>>a fighting force, based in Thailand, from which it destabilized
>>>Cambodia for more than a decade.'"
>>
>>>"In 1982, the US and China, sup****ted by Singa****e, invented the
>>>Coalition of the Democratic Government of Kampuchea, which was, as Ben
>>>Kiernan pointed out, neither a coalition, nor democratic, nor a
>>>government, not in Kampuchea. Rather, it was what the CIA calls a
>>>'master illusion.' ... Cambodia's former ruler, Prince Norodom
>>>Sihanouk, was appointed its head; otherwise little changed. The KR
>>>dominated the two "non-communist" members, the Sihanoukists and the
>>>Khmer Peoples' National Liberation Front (KPNLF). From his office at
>>>the UN, Pol Pot's ambassador, the urbane Thereon Parish, continued to
>>>speak for Cambodia. A close associate of Pol Pot, he had in 1975
>>>called on Khmer expatriates to return home, whereupon many of them
>>>disappeared."
>>
>>This is unbelievable.  Why on earth did they sup****t the Kmer Rouge?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "
> Under Prince Sihanouk, Cambodia had preserved neutrality during the
> Vietnamese civil war by giving a little to both sides: Vietnamese
> communists were allowed to use a Cambodian ****t to ****p in supplies,
> the USA were allowed to bomb - secretly and illegitimately - Viet Cong
> hideouts in Cambodia. When US-backed Lon Nol took over, US troops felt
> free to move into Cambodia to continue their struggle with the Viet
> Cong. Cambodia had become part of the Vietnam battlefield. During the
> next four years, American B-52 bombers, using napalm and dart cluster-
> bombs, killed up to 750,000 Cambodians in their effort to destroy
> suspected North Vietnamese supply lines. "
> 
> "
> Cambodia: A timeline
> 
> 
> 1700s
> 
> Viets conquer Mekong Delta; weaker Khmer kingdom assumes roughly
> modern borders of Cambodia.
> 
> 1834–1841
> 
> Viets attack and share increasing control over Khmers with Siam
> kingdom.
> 
> 1863–1940
> 
> French intervene militarily and Cambodia becomes French protectorate.
> The region becomes part of French Indochina along with Vietnam and
> Laos. French colonial capital located at Phnom Penh.
> 
> 1940–1945
> 
> World War II; Japanese fight Allies for control over Southeast Asia
> and Pacific.
> 
> 1954–1970
> 
> Independence from French; Kingdom of Cambodia under Prince Norodom
> Sihanouk who abdicates throne to become elected President.
> 
> 1970
> 
> Coup against Sihanouk establishes General Lon Nol as President of a
> U.S.-backed regime called the Khmer Republic.
> 
> 1970–1975
> 
> Khmer Republic under Lon Nol allows U.S. bombing inside Cambodian
> borders to fight Vietcong; Sihanouk, in exile in China, joins forces
> with North Vietnamese as well as ascending Cambodian communists called
> Khmer Rouge.
> 
> 1975
> 
> Khmer Rouge forces led by Pol Pot capture capital of Phnom Penh.
> 
> 1975–1979
> 
> Khmer Rouge rule what they call Democratic Kampuchea. Intellectuals
> and those who worked for prior government are killed. All Phnom Penh
> residents are de****ted to countryside for slave labor; massive death
> toll from murder and starvation occurs in northwest Cambodia; bloody
> purges attempt to eliminate all dissidents. Nearly two million
> citizens die. ( out of a population of 7 mill)  Khmer Rouge attacks
> over Vietnamese borders lead to a military invasion from now unified
> and well-armed Communist Vietnam.
> 
> 1979
> 
> Vietnamese troops invade and overthrow Pol Pot’s regime.
> 
> 1979–
> 
> People’s Republic of Kampuchea; fragmented coalition government is
> formed where Vietnamese puppets compete for power with former Khmer
> Rouge officers and Sihanouk sup****ters. Cambodia begins long recovery
> process for former refugees who fled to Thailand and other traumatized
> citizens.
> 
> 1989
> 
> Vietnam officially withdraws from Cambodia.
> 
> 1994
> 
> Khmer Rouge outlawed by Cambodian National Assembly
> 
> 1998
> 
> Pol Pot, former leader of Khmer Rouge, dies in forest hideout, never
> brought to trial.
> 
> 2004
> 
> Elderly King Sihanouk turns monarchy over to son, King Sihamoni, but
> real political power is held by elected President Hun Sen, a former
> Khmer Rouge officer. "

yikes.

robert

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Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
small tortoiseshell <_  2008-04-24 05:09:15 
Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-04-24 19:18:29 

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