On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:17:50 -0700, bluej wrote:
> On Apr 23, 1:04 pm, oxtail <oxt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:46:56 -0700, jimzorn wrote:
>> >> Belief is not a basis for proof or for truth. You need more than
>> >> one or two uncorroborated anecdotes, which could be lies, to
>> >> establish that something is taking place. Otherwise you are a
>> >> propogandist and nothing more.
>>
>> > I gave you four references: Kawaguchi, the Nazi expedition to Tibet,
>> > Michael Parenti, and the book by a Tibetan who was abused as a boy in
>> > Tibet. Although I can't post the entirety of this content here, it is
>> > readily available through an online search.
>>
>> > The reason these kind of things went on in the Catholic church for so
>> > long is because nobody wanted to admit or believe such things could
>> > happen. This is usually the case in sexual abuse.
>>
>> > I'm not a propagandist, I'm a person just like you who is here to
>> > discuss these things. I used to believe in Tibetan independence, but
>> > now believe that it would only hurt the Tibetans.
>>
>> I don't care much about nationalism.
>> But I care deeply about the freedom of speech. No one should be killed
>> or jailed
>> for participating in a peaceful demonstration. What the Chinese are
>> doing in Tibet is simply not acceptable.
>>
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> Avail yourself to some recent footage and news reports from western
> reporters. Monks are free to rant and protest the hell of it. Make no
> mistake that the target of the recent riot is Han-Chinese and their
> businesses, and many Tibetan Chinese were maimed and looted in the
> process as well. This riot is just a recent example of the long history
> of Tibetan separatists terrorist acts. Will you be as sympathetic if the
> separatists are Islamic?
How many monks did you arrest?
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oxtail


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