On Apr 23, 8:08=A0am, "dkotsch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 23, 10:30=A0am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > dkotsch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 22, 6:14 pm, Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{dele...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >>Dave K wrote:
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> > >>>Right. =A0There is no "change the world" vs. "change other people."
> > >>>Thich Nhat Hahn said that the enemies are greed, anger, and
delusion,=
> > >>>not people.
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> > >>>Seeing as it's earth day I think I can reveal my greenhouse gas
theor=
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> > >>>of Buddhism. =A0Greed, anger and delusion are like greenhouse
gasses.=
> > >>>Our job is to reduce emissions. =A0The less the world has the
better.=
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> > >>>No bothering about who's emissions they are. =A0No bothering about
> > >>>whether it's better to do this in a cave by yourself or to be a
> > >>>"useful member of society" who also writes letters to congress and
> > >>>goes to protests or whatever it is that people do to be useful
member=
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> > >>>of society.
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> > >>>Go plant something. =A0Then sit under it.
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> > >>Very noble feeling, and presumably very
> > >>noble action to follow through with it.
> > >>However would you take your feeling
> > >>and action to be universally valid, beyond
> > >>any question, iow would you attempt to
> > >>impose them on everybody else?
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> > >>Tang Huyen
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> > > I wouldn't even know how to do that.
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> > > -DavK
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> > Good to see you in any case.
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> > If sitting under a tree is the solution,
> > and people are not the problem,
> > where does that leave sangha?
> > where does that leave compassion?
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> > I prefer the razor's edge of the Diamond Sutra
> > to an either/or solution:
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> > a. =A0"The bodhisattva saves countless beings."
> > b. =A0"The boddhisattva does not allow the thought to arise
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 that he is saving countless beings."
> > c. =A0"Even though countless beings are saved, in truth there are no
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=A0 =A0 =A0
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 beings,they are just called such."
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> > In other words, he acts without a sense of separate self, he acts
> > without a sense of a separate other, yet he still does act
> > compassionately and does not refrain from acting on behalf of others.
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> Hmm, it seems no-one is picking up on my metaphor. =A0Guess it needs
> work.
=93Had it not been for the Tartars I would not be alive today. They were
the nomads of the Crimea, in what was then no man=92s land between the
Russian and German fronts, and favoured neither side. I had already
struck up a good relationship with them, and often wandered off to sit
with them. =91Du nix njemcky=92 they would say, =91du Tartar,=92 and try
to
persuade me to join their clan. Their nomadic ways attracted me of
course, although by that time their movements had been restricted. Yet
it was they who discovered me in the snow after the crash, when the
German search parties had given up. I was still unconscious then and
only came round completely after twelve days or so, and by then I was
back in a German field hospital. So the memories I have of that time
are images that penetrated my consciousness. The last thing I remember
was that it was too late to jump, too late for the parachutes to open.
That must have been a couple of seconds before hitting the ground.
Luckily I was not strapped in =96 I always preferred free movement to
safety belts=85 My friend was strapped in and he was atomized on impact
=96 there was almost nothing to be found of him afterwards. But I must
have shot through the windscreen as it flew back at the same speed as
the plane hit the ground and that saved me, though I had bad skull and
jaw injuries. Then the tail flipped over and I was completely buried
in the snow. That=92s how the Tartars found me days later. I remember
voices saying =91Voda=92 (Water), then the felt of their tents, and the
dense pungent smell of cheese, fat and milk. They covered my body in
fat to help it regenerate warmth, and wrapped it in felt as an
insulator to keep warmth in.=94
he had a performance once called how to explain art to a dead rabbit
and got viciously attaced by the audience. wouldt happen now i guess
but he is one of the most interesting and influential artists of this
century.
Blinky Palermo, one of his Dusseldorf students, who incidentally
vanished
at the age of 28 somewhere in asia ( officially dead but nobody really
knows)
is one of my greatest inspirations btw. Beys once characterized his
work
as ' light as the breath' ...
"
Beuys also continued to make sculptures, installations, drawings and
performances until his death in 1986. In 1982, for example, he planted
7,000 oak trees in Kassel, Germany, for Documenta 7 "
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