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Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)

by "dkotschess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <dkotschess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 08:08 AM

On Apr 23, 10:30=A0am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> dkotsch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > On Apr 22, 6:14 pm, Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{dele...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Dave K wrote:
>
> >>>Right. =A0There is no "change the world" vs. "change other people."
> >>>Thich Nhat Hahn said that the enemies are greed, anger, and delusion,
> >>>not people.
>
> >>>Seeing as it's earth day I think I can reveal my greenhouse gas
theory
> >>>of Buddhism. =A0Greed, anger and delusion are like greenhouse gasses.
> >>>Our job is to reduce emissions. =A0The less the world has the better.
>
> >>>No bothering about who's emissions they are. =A0No bothering about
> >>>whether it's better to do this in a cave by yourself or to be a
> >>>"useful member of society" who also writes letters to congress and
> >>>goes to protests or whatever it is that people do to be useful
members
> >>>of society.
>
> >>>Go plant something. =A0Then sit under it.
>
> >>Very noble feeling, and presumably very
> >>noble action to follow through with it.
> >>However would you take your feeling
> >>and action to be universally valid, beyond
> >>any question, iow would you attempt to
> >>impose them on everybody else?
>
> >>Tang Huyen
>
> > I wouldn't even know how to do that.
>
> > -DavK
>
> Good to see you in any case.
>
> If sitting under a tree is the solution,
> and people are not the problem,
> where does that leave sangha?
> where does that leave compassion?
>
> I prefer the razor's edge of the Diamond Sutra
> to an either/or solution:
>
> a. =A0"The bodhisattva saves countless beings."
> b. =A0"The boddhisattva does not allow the thought to arise
> =A0 =A0 =A0 that he is saving countless beings."
> c. =A0"Even though countless beings are saved, in truth there are no =A0
=
=A0 =A0 =A0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 beings,they are just called such."
>
> In other words, he acts without a sense of separate self, he acts
> without a sense of a separate other, yet he still does act
> compassionately and does not refrain from acting on behalf of others.

Hmm, it seems no-one is picking up on my metaphor.  Guess it needs
work.

-DaveK




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Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
"dkotschess@[EMAIL P  2008-04-23 08:08:58 
Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-04-23 17:10:04 

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