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Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)

by Robert Epstein <vze256xu@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 02:30 PM

dkotschess@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> On Apr 22, 6:14 pm, Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{dele...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
> 
>>Dave K wrote:
>>
>>>Right.  There is no "change the world" vs. "change other people."
>>>Thich Nhat Hahn said that the enemies are greed, anger, and delusion,
>>>not people.
>>
>>>Seeing as it's earth day I think I can reveal my greenhouse gas theory
>>>of Buddhism.  Greed, anger and delusion are like greenhouse g*****.
>>>Our job is to reduce emissions.  The less the world has the better.
>>
>>>No bothering about who's emissions they are.  No bothering about
>>>whether it's better to do this in a cave by yourself or to be a
>>>"useful member of society" who also writes letters to congress and
>>>goes to protests or whatever it is that people do to be useful members
>>>of society.
>>
>>>Go plant something.  Then sit under it.
>>
>>Very noble feeling, and presumably very
>>noble action to follow through with it.
>>However would you take your feeling
>>and action to be universally valid, beyond
>>any question, iow would you attempt to
>>impose them on everybody else?
>>
>>Tang Huyen
> 
> 
> I wouldn't even know how to do that.
> 
> -DavK

Good to see you in any case.

If sitting under a tree is the solution,
and people are not the problem,
where does that leave sangha?
where does that leave compassion?

I prefer the razor's edge of the Diamond Sutra
to an either/or solution:

a.  "The bodhisattva saves countless beings."
b.  "The boddhisattva does not allow the thought to arise
      that he is saving countless beings."
c.  "Even though countless beings are saved, in truth there are no 	
      beings,they are just called such."

In other words, he acts without a sense of separate self, he acts 
without a sense of a separate other, yet he still does act 
compassionately and does not refrain from acting on behalf of others.

Robert

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Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
"dkotschess@[EMAIL P  2008-04-22 15:27:19 
Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-04-23 14:30:45 
Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
Tang Huyen <tanghuyen{  2008-04-23 10:46:45 
Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
Hollywood Lee <hollywo  2008-04-23 10:00:12 
Re: The model (was Re: Sh*t happens)
Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-04-23 17:08:39 

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