ancientbuddhism@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>where does Buddha say "there is a permanent Atman" or anything like
>>that. Please give a useable cite that I can link to easily.
>>
>>Robert
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> Sagathavaggapali of SN book 1 verse 169 the soul (attan) is called
> ETERNAL (niccato, niccam, nicca) 3 times
>
> (SN 1.169)
>
> Mahanidesapali 2.235 "niccato sukhato attatoti" Eternal bliss in the
> Soul
>
> Nettipakaranapali #86 "anicce niccanti, anattani attati" "What is
> anatta is impermanent, what is eternal is the Soul"
>
> Silakhandhavaggapali Att. 2.377 atta'nan niccameva "Soul is eternal"
>
> 5.85 Jataka Att. "niccayattena" "eternal Soul"
>
> "The aggregates are to be transcended (nissaranam)" SN 3.35
> -------------now tell me what transcends them.
>
> "AMATAGAMIMAGGA " (path to immortality) SN 5.9.................now
> tell me the locus of immortality.
>
> The Soul of the buddha nature is like the diamond which cannot be
> crushed out. [Taisho T .374, trans. Dr. Kosho Yamamoto. . Published
> Karibunko press Mahayana Mahaparinirvana Sutra] verse 1035
>
> The Nature of the three refuges is that of the Soul. If one knows
> clearly the nature of the Soul then one truly has possession of buddha-
> nature. This is the Soul [Taisho T .374, trans. Dr. Kosho Yamamoto. .
> Published Karibunko press 1973 Mahayana Mahaparinirvana Sutra]. Verse
> 947
>
> For it is well know O' Kashyapa, that this Soul could never be none
> other than that buddha-nature which you should seek. [Taisho T .374,
> trans. Dr. Kosho Yamamoto. . Published Karibunko press 1973 Mahayana
> Mahaparinirvana Sutra] Verse 186
>
>
These latter are all Yamamoto translations. Is he of the same
philosophy as you, and is there an alternate translation? What is the
word he is translating as "Soul" in these quotes?
As to the quotes above, you give small quotes but do not give links as I
requested. I cannot go to a web source to read the full scripture. A
link would be much easier to investigate. When I checked your previous
SN cite, the sentence you quoted was nowhere to be found in either
Thanissaro or Bikkhu Bodhi's versions, both of them being of very
different philosophical bents. Nothing like what you said was there. A
direct link would be most helpful.
Robert
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