Re: Why was Jesus crucified?

On May 13, 12:09=A0am, Mordecai <"mldavis(please dont
spam)"@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> cactus wrote:
> > Mordecai wrote:
>
> > > saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > >> On May 12, 9:22 pm, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >>> saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > >>>> On May 12, 10:05 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >>>>> "Foolish," "inaccurate" and "anti-semite" may be insulting, but
th=
ey are
> > >>>>> not racial insults.
> > >>>> This is just a typical example of the old switcheroo, at which
mode=
rn
> > >>>> Jews are so expert. =A0They commit the crime and then get someone
e=
lse
> > >>>> to do the time. =A0Not anymore, Upstein. =A0We see through all
your=

> > >>>> tricks. =A0The gig is up.
> > >>>> In other words, racism is inherent in the Jewish worldview, and
so
> > >>>> Jews have always been the ones crying the loudest about "anti-
> > >>>> semitism." =A0It is a trick, a diversion, a deflection from their
o=
wn
> > >>>> misdeeds by projecting them onto others.
> > >>> You must have a very amnesiac view of history. =A0Try reality
someti=
me; I
> > >>> know it's not for sissies, but it's a good tonic.
>
> > >>> Robert
> > >> Whose reality? =A0As rewritten Orwellian style by your kind? =A0I
don=
't
> > >> think so.
>
> > > Umm ... Reality could be defined when your expectations of reality
tur=
n out to
> > > be wrong - and you are forced to change your opinion.
> > > It is a simplistic definition but eminently usable - as in turning
fro=
m what you
> > > know is false ...
> > > If your old ideas are "going to give the wrong results" your new
ideas=
 are at
> > > least going to be "possible" rather than predetermined to be wrong.
>
> > > I have addressed this with you several times.
> > > You keep making statements which are untrue and I merely pointed out
t=
hat they
> > > were untrue and this could be tested.
> > > Upon testing (which I did) - I discovered that your ideas and
expectat=
ions and
> > > truth were ... false.
> > > And then I asked "What now?"
>
> > > So what do you do when your expectations about "what is real" turns
ou=
t to be
> > > false?
> > > Do you keep hold of ideas which inevitably and invariantly are
provabl=
y
> > > incorrect?
>
> > I have never pj****nik alter his views base on their rightness or
> > wrongness. =A0The only thing that seems to change them is his
momentary
> > brain chemistry and the latest mythos he reads.
>
> Ah no - he is learning though he does not realize it.
>
> If you know someone who has a traumatic spinal injury such as soft
tissue =
damage in a
> car accident - the body responds short term ... medium term and long
term.=

> Short term - the body tightens an area to prevent movement and give the
bo=
dy a chance
> to recover. (approx 48 hours)
> Medium term - the body continues to prevents certain movements which
hurt,=
 and adapts
> to what the body sees as a permanent disability. (approx six months)
> Long term, the body creates another posture which encompassed the
refusal =
of the body
> to use the injured area ... even if it has later recovered.
>
> In changing into the long term position, the body goes through one or a
se=
ries of
> massive changes to the way you move so that the "forbidden movement" is
en=
compassed
> into the very essence of the way you move. Your entire body is effected
as=
 every
> single movement requires differences. =A0It is in this crisis where you
LE=
ARN another
> way to move.
> And in the crisis, everything you do is somehow "wrong" and =A0gives you
p=
ain.
>
> This is true both with the normal progression of the degeneration of the
s=
pine, and
> also when you restore movement in an otherwise "permanent" injury
pattern.=

> As I can testify as I recovered =A0from =A025% permanent disability.
=A0Yo=
u have to learn
> how to move again ...
> But alas, as I am the only one who has recovered - then you really have
to=
 take my
> word for things :-(
> After all, "permanent" is a legal term used by doctors to say "no
recovery=
 is
> possible" and so recovery is indeed ... unusual to say the least. Not
quit=
e
> unprecedented but pretty close to it!
>
> The crisis within the body requires you to literally "reprogram" the
motor=
 cortex -
> which is the interface between the brain and the body.
> Consider it as the sub process of the brain which controls movement.
> And when you relearn how to move - either in the instinctive way, or in
th=
e
> counterintuitive way of recovery, your entire body changes.
>
> The crisis is the change to all the ways you have preciously done
things.
>
> Likewise, Peter is being shown that his ideas are incorrect and he has
to =
get to a
> crisis point and change.
> Like the physical changes in the body, so also in the mental picture of
th=
e way the
> universe works, it takes time to change EVERYTHING.
>
> It is not yet =A0time to judge him as the crisis has not yet arrived.
> He is trying to work out how to keep as much of his ideas as possible,
cha=
nge the
> least amount - get the world back on course.
> That is NORMAL, INSTINCTIVE and as far as I can tell, the most logical
way=
 to approach
> even learning, let alone changing.
>
> I do take exceptions to some posters who - when presented with proof and
g=
iven time to
> change ... taken carefully to the crisis point and confronted - wimp
out.
> These enter a fantasy realm. If you prefer, a self induced delusion or
ins=
anity - and
> I have no methodology to dealing with such a decision.
>
> Peter has a long way to go.
> And it is way too soon to presume what the outcome is going to be.
> But I can assure you he IS learning ... and most of the learning is not
on=
 the
> intellectual level of the mind.
>
> --
> Mordecai!

Nice to get the perspective of evil on my own humble self.  Actually
you are not telling me anything I don't already know about your evil
intentions and scheme to do evil to me.  I guess that gives you a
sense of power and dominion, but it will never change my mind one
iota.

A man convinced against his will remains unconvinced still.

Actually, Mordecai, I did not know the relative depth of evil between
you and Cactus****, for instance.  Now it is clear that you are really
the chief demon here.  Does that make your head swell?  Or anything
else swell?  God, I hope not!

BTW, **** you Mordecai.  Drop dead.