David wrote:
> On May 9, 8:08 am, Rod <icom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> ...
>> Then you will be amazed to know that he in fact did exist. The
talmud
>> speaks of him, as do many other early authors. I don't see a problem
>> with his existence, only the claims of who people say that he is...
>
> I take slight exception - the apparent absence of reference to him
> apart
> from the NT has been one of the reasons why many 19th century critics
> claimed that he never existed at all.
>
> In the end, however, I believe modern scholar****p is sufficiently
> convincing
> to show Jesus existed historically. Specifically, please see my
> previous
> post for a wide-ranging discussion of the Jewish historian Josephus.
>
>> ...
>> I can understand the feeling of being relieved, but what silly rules
>> are you specifically referring to ? Christianity has some very good
>> ideas, albeit none of them are original...
>> ...
>
> I am coming from a different place than Yowie - I don't feel that
> the rules per se of my church are silly. Instead, it's their
> attitudes
> I find are confining. For example, during testimony time during
> Wor****p Service I once quoted a quatrain from the Bhagavad Gita
> because its description of divinity spoke to my condition.
> Subsequently,
> I was called to the pastor's office and told I was doing the work of
> the devil.
I can safely assume that most of us are coming from different angles
as to these problems. What you experienced above is typical of the
narrow mindedness that has always dominated religionists, ergo lack
of understanding and foresight. With people like this the unexpected
and those things they do not understand are always explained away as
"God working", or for lack of the correct terminology, a "miracle".
>
> Then again, only today, I was in Bible Study with 3 other men.
> We covered John 13 - Last Supper. The leader interpreted John
> 13:31-34
> as proof of Jesus's divinity. I myself am much less inclined to put
> theology into the text.
I've looked the verses over as well..I see no evidence for divinity
in those verses....
>
> For me the bottom line is the practical admonition from Jesus's
> wa****ng of the disciples' feet to practise servanthood with others in
> a Christian way.
>
> d.c.
I can agree with this statement to a point. The idea of being a
servant has always been repulsive to me.
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