Yowie wrote:
> Rod wrote:
>> David wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 6:51 am, The Real Doctor <ubergeek...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 30 Apr, 01:46, David <pchristain...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 29, 6:12 pm, The Real Doctor <ubergeek...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Miracles are always implausible. It goes with the territory.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>> My meaning is that the New Testament miracles never
>>>>> happened.
>>>> Oh, right, so it's just another lead-in to the "NT miracles were
>>>> actually political conversions" claims, then?
>>>>
>>>> Count me out of this.
>>>> ...
>>> You anticipate too much; that's why our conversations
>>> never go anywhere.
>>>
>>> d.c.
>>>
>>
>> Allow me to ask this question then; how will it effect the quaker
>> communtiy as a whole if it is found that Christ did not die on
>> the cross, or even much worse, that he did in fact die on the cross
>> but as a sacrifice for the jews only ?
>>
>> Would this not shake even the stoutest quakers spiritual
>> foundations ?
>
> I am not a Quaker nor do I speak for Quakers as a whole. This is just my
> personal response.
>
> If I found incontrovertable proof that Jesus did not in fact die on the
> cross, i would still be amazed that there was incontrovertable proof
that
> Jesus existed.
Then you will be amazed to know that he in fact did exist. The talmud
speaks of him, as do many other early authors. I don't see a problem
with his existence, only the claims of who people say that he is...
>
> I I then found incontrovertable proof that Jesus died onthe cross but it
was
> for the Jews only, in one way I would be relieved. It would free me from
the
> nagging guilt I feel whenever I feel I am not Christian enough - there
would
> be no basis for the Christian religion and I could then choose to adopt
the
> Jewish religion (which woudl then mean I was covered by the sacrifice,
btu
> still had to hold all the Jewish laws) or I could just get on with life
> knowing that I was no longer subject to a whole bunch of quite silly
rules &
> regulations.
I can understand the feeling of being relieved, but what silly rules
are you specifically referring to ? Christianity has some very good
ideas, albeit none of them are original...
Rod
>
> Yowie
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