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Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?

by David <pchristainsen@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 06:45 PM

On May 7, 8:54=A0pm, "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAM...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>...
> "I don't talk about Dr. Thiering's scholarly work on Christian
> Origins on SRQ anymore."
>
> And yet the very next day, here you are, you are posting about Thiering
> again.

Clearly, you are laboring under a huge misimpression.  Her scholarly
work on Christian Origins is her pesher and its extracted history
from the 4 gospels, Acts and Revelation.  Also, her expertise
on the Dead Sea Scrolls is widely acknowledged.

If you would take the substance itself, I gave her material on
Josephus because it should resolve your doubts about
Jesus's historical existence.  In addition, I gave a wealth of
interesting new information such as Jesus's dealing with
the militants and the fact that Pilate was bribed.

> This is one of the reasons why I, and no doubt many others, find you so
> frustrating, David.

Again, my position is perfectly clear and non-frustrating.  The coming
revolution in Christian Origins will happen after scholars (her peers)
verify her pesher competently.  Her pesher detail for (let's say)
Pentecost in Acts (2:1-21) is radical and shocking, bearing no
resemblance to the surface text.

To review, my policy on the NGs is not to teach Thiering pesher.
It would take a lot of convincing by any sincere student for me
to break my policy.

> You once accused me of abusing you. At this point, I think perhaps you
wer=
e
> right, and my frustration with you got the better of me. I have tried my
> utmost to be patient and polite, but I think I may have failed a few
times=
..
> Please forgive any harsh words.

I have already stated publicly that I was wrong to include you
on my abuser list.  Please forgive me on this matter.
You have a perfect right to your own views on the Christian
Religion and its origins/history; I do not seek to convert you
to my way of thinking.

> However, I suspect if I keep reading your posts (rather than just *not
> replying* as has been my practice recently) my frustration will once
again=

> get the better of me and I'll say something unkind again.

I don't think so.  I confess that last fall/winter I was disappointed
that Dr. Thiering's 1981 paper on signs of Essene solar calendar
in NT text failed to electrify you.  However, now I realize that
the contents cannot be taught without strong guidance from
a teacher like myself in a face to face manner over the course
of several hours.

For the immediate topic, my purpose is served to show
convincingly that ---

a) the Historical Jesus existed

b) Jesus did not die on the cross

c) Christian doctrine that Christ died for mankind's sins is
    way off base - the central teaching on Atonement needs
    theological replacement

> So, for the sake of my nerves and blood pressure, I am walking away. I
> regret not having better self control.
>...

We are all fallible human beings.  BTW I am fascinated with
the Bradshaws rock art in northwestern Australia.

David Christainsen
 




 38 Posts in Topic:
Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-04-29 14:28:48 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
The Real Doctor <uberg  2008-04-29 15:12:31 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-06 15:51:02 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-04-29 17:46:08 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
The Real Doctor <uberg  2008-04-30 03:51:59 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-04-30 06:03:58 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-06 15:54:30 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
"Yowie" <yow  2008-05-07 12:26:25 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 07:08:31 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-06 14:26:03 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-07 14:12:34 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
"Yowie" <yow  2008-05-08 10:54:02 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-07 18:45:43 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-09 06:46:59 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 10:13:02 
Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- what
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-09 09:41:00 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 12:23:45 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-09 12:58:42 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 16:24:35 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-09 15:05:36 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 17:31:04 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-09 17:33:30 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 20:15:16 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Bill Samuel <wsamuel@[  2008-05-10 06:51:48 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-10 15:15:58 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-10 10:23:58 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-10 15:19:49 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
"\"<316>\  2008-05-10 13:41:14 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
"Spd" <spade  2008-05-16 18:09:18 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 22:33:55 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
"\"<316>\  2008-05-10 13:43:58 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
"Pulpiteer Jack Slut  2008-05-10 20:29:36 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
The Real Doctor <uberg  2008-05-11 02:03:09 
Re: Last Supper and Jesus's wa****ng of the disciples' feet --- w
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-11 10:57:59 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
"\"<316>\  2008-05-17 00:09:10 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
Rod <icom706@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 07:39:02 
Re: Are the New Testament miracles plausible?
"\"<316>\  2008-05-17 08:45:18 
Lazarus' raising from the dead
David <pchristainsen@[  2008-05-17 13:12:35 

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