On May 6, 4:54=A0pm, Rod <icom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> David wrote:
> > On Apr 30, 6:51 am, The Real Doctor <ubergeek...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > wrote:
> >> On 30 Apr, 01:46, David <pchristain...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >>> On Apr 29, 6:12 pm, The Real Doctor <ubergeek...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Miracles are always implausible. It goes with the territory.
> >>>> ...
> >>> My meaning is that the New Testament miracles never
> >>> happened.
> >> Oh, right, so it's just another lead-in to the "NT miracles were
> >> actually political conversions" claims, then?
>
> >> Count me out of this.
> >> ...
>
> > You anticipate too much; that's why our conversations
> > never go anywhere.
>
> > d.c.
>
> =A0 =A0Allow me to ask this question then; how will it effect the quaker
> =A0 =A0communtiy as a whole if it is found that Christ did not die on
> =A0 =A0the cross, or even much worse, that he did in fact die on the
cross=
> =A0 =A0but as a sacrifice for the jews only ?
>
> =A0 =A0Would this not shake even the stoutest quakers spiritual
foundation=
s ?
>...
For my answer please understand I speak as someone long committed
to quakerism. In New England Friends had been losing their Christian
identity for decades as evidenced by their placing the Bible in a
secondary position but I, in my ignorance, was extremely slow to pick
up on it in my Quaker practise in Quaker Wor****p.
Doubtless, in the wider world it would shake up the quaker community
because modern Christian doctrine dictates that Christ died for our
sins.
After years of consideration and some personal association with a
world famous professor of religious studies, I personally conclude
that Christ did not die on the cross. I propose this is unsettling
for
many because it means the earliest Christian evangelists in a tight
circle like Paul, Peter, John Mark, Thomas etc. were deliberately
deceptive in their evangelism. Also, in theology Christ's divinity
is taken away in the traditional sense.
Based on whatever authority I may have with you, I assure you the
Christian Religion was originally spread on the basis that Christ's
sacrifice on the cross was for mankind, not just for Jews.
I am sure you will agree with me that beliefs (faith) can take on a
life of its own, independent of the truth.
d.c.
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