Re: Why was Jesus crucified?

"Mike" <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Agamemnon" <agamemnon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> So we are back to the most logical conclusion. THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE 
>> JESUS!
>>
>> Including a doctor, a terrorist, a priest, a plagiarised Indian God, 
>> Krishna who fled his homeland as a baby because he was sentenced to
death 
>> along with every child under 2 years of age, another plagiarised Indian

>> Demi-God, Buddha who received gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh and

>> was visited by shepherds, plagiarised Egyptian and Babylonian Gods, 
>> Osiris and Tammuz who rose from the dead, a plagiarised 
>> Cypriot/Phoenician God killed by a wild boar who punched a hole in his 
>> side with one of it's tusks who also rose from the dead, Adonis/Adonai,

>> all of which were combined together to make the Legend of Jesus Christ.
> I find it hard to believe that people back then would have even known of

> all these legends in order to incor****ate them into a story of their 
> choosing.

Then you obviously haven't read any ancient literature. Jesus Christ is
the 
legend. The others are all do***ented historical figures in their own 
rights. A legend is historically defined as a combination of different 
accounts about different historical persons mistaken for each other either

deliberately or inadvertently. A myth on the other hand is historically 
defined as a historical account of an act of might.

> And there doesn't seem to be any motive to do so. No, instead all the 
> schooled people of those days were persecuting  the church and trying to

> suppress the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

And your evidence for this is what? Non-existent. Prove there was a church

before even attempting to claim it was persecuted.

>Your thesis lacks credibility because it is an arbitrary collection of 
>arbitrary myths for arbitrary reasons.

Then why have they all been incor****ated into the Gospels?

>You don't believe the Gospels because you don't understand the

The Gospels are a composite work of all the above sources.

> necessity of it. It seems arbitrary to you, and so any collection of 
> arbitrary myths seems just as likely as the Gospel.
>
> But if God exists and is in control of the events in the universe, then

Which God? There are many Gods, each of whom is historically do***ented in

their own right, except for the one you seem to be making up as you are 
going along who is a composite figure of lots of different Gods.

> there is no alternative but that He will reveal His Nature through 
> creation. And what else can be revealed about Him except that God is 
> completely devoted to righteousness. So we are absolutely justified in 
> believing that God will reveal Himself to mankind as a one who is
sincere 
> in His commitment

Absolute nonsense. Read Plato's Timaeus. You are making up your own God by

combining Christ with the God of Plato and the Phoenician Sea God Jehovah.

Plato's God does not need incarnate himself. He is beyond that, and that
is 
what makes him a God. Jehovah was killed by Baal Hadad in about 1650 BC. 
Christ a composite figure.

> to doing good. And how does one prove that he is sincerely devoted to 
> righteousness? He continues to do good and speak truth even in spite of 
> persecution and opposition.

And you know this how?

>So we should expect God (or the Son of God if you prefer) to continue to
do 
>the most miraculous of good deeds and to speak about the most everlasting

>and eternal truth in spite of the most terrible of persecution. And so He

>will do miracles of healing and speak about eternal life in spite of
death 
>threats. Then He will suffer for the cause of love and die for the sake
of 
>what's right, and come back to life again to show that faithfulness will
be 
>vindicated. What's so hard to believe about that?

It a load of complete and utter nonsense.

Read Plato's Timaeus and follow that by reading Plotinus Enneads and stop 
deluding yourself. Why should a universal God attach himself to a
collection 
of myths about a Jewish carpenter and a Phoenician Pharaoh of Lowe Egypt 
from the Hyksos period?