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Re: Why was Jesus crucified?

by saint7peter@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 1, 2008 at 02:42 AM

On Apr 1, 12:19=A0am, Terry Cross <tcros...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 1:31 pm, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > > On Mar 31, 10:42 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >>saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > >>>Anyone who actually reads the Talmud and the writings of
Maimonides,
> > >>>for instance, knows that Judaism is very strongly racist, more
> > >>>strongly than any other religion or belief system on earth. =A0If
you=

> > >>>deny that, you are either ignorant or a lying demagogue yourself.
=A0=
I
> > >>>presume the latter. =A0Anyone who tries to reason with the Jews on
th=
is
> > >>>newsgroup, knows how demented they are and completely incapable of
> > >>>dialogue or reason. =A0All they do is present deadening dogma meant
t=
o
> > >>>intimidate.
>
> > >>Okay, pj, I don't want to intimidate you, although I'm sure that
would=

> > >>be impossible anyway. =A0Let's "reason" together, as you request
above=
..
> > >>Give me a single quote from the Talmud that is racist, and give me
one=

> > >>example of racism in Judaism. =A0I'm not asking you to review your
ent=
ire
> > >>argument, which I apparently missed. =A0How about just one piece of
> > >>evidence to show that you have something to back up your view. =A0Is
t=
hat
> > >>asking too much?
>
> > >>Now I will freely admit that there is institutional racism in the
> > >>treatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli government. =A0I
consider=

> > >>that more of a horrible political situation than anything else,
which
> > >>needs to be corrected. =A0And there are definitely some Jews that
are
> > >>racists, just as there are racists in every community. =A0But show
me =
that
> > >>Judaism itself is "strongly racist" as you assert above, and "more
> > >>strongly than any other religion or belief system on earth" as you
say=

> > >>above. =A0Just give an illustration of each of those assertions, so
we=
 can
> > >>both be reasonable and talk about evidence instead of mere belief.
>
> > >>Robert
>
> > >>- - - - - - - - - -
>
> > > All "published" Jews think there is something special about Jews
vis-a=
-
> > > vis the "Jewish soul." =A0 The literature commpares the souls of
> > > Gentiles to the souls of animals, by comparison to the souls of
Jews.
> > > You may or may not know the doctrine of the five levels of soul:
> > > Ruah, Nefesh, Neshamah, Chayah, and Yechidah. =A0JHVH only exists
with=
in
> > > this "Jewish soul," and so Gentiles can not know JHVH in the way
that
> > > Jews can. =A0Although, JHVH is unquiqely the "Jewish G-D," he
governs
> > > all, and all must be obedient to JHVH, even though they cannot have
> > > same intimate relation****p to JHVH that Jews can. =A0The Noahide
Laws
> > > enforce this unbalanced state of affairs. =A0The Gentiles, to avoid
> > > destruction, must acknowledge the Jewish G-D and avoid wor****pping
or
> > > even achkonwledging any other God, including a God that might be
> > > unique to the particular Gentiles. =A0The Gentile nation must adopt
a
> > > judicial system that enforces the exclusive belief in the Jewish
G-D,
> > > thus destroying the separation of church and state. =A0Now here's
the
> > > kicker: =A0a Public Law was passed by Congress in 1991 honoring
Rebbe
> > > Schneerson on his birthday and proclaiming the Noahide Laws in
> > > principle within the United States, thus destroying American
> > > democracy, in principle. =A0The only thing that has saved us is the
> > > death of Rebbe Schneerson, which extinguished the possibility that
he
> > > could be regarded as the Messiah. =A0Otherwise, we might have a
Jewish=

> > > theocracy today, instead of an American democracy. =A0This needs
looki=
ng
> > > into, but I believe we came as close to that dire end as to a
literal
> > > end during the Cuban Missle Crisis. =A0We have only the true G-D of
> > > Israel to thank for extingui****ng the Antichrist, Rebbe Scheerson,
> > > before he could rise to power.
>
> > Well, thanks for discussing what you meant by "Jewish racism." =A0I
woul=
d
> > not call it that, as it is not prejudice against a particular race,
but
> > more of an avowal of specialness for one's own race.
>
> That's pretty weasily, Robert. =A0You have just excused White Racism.
>
> > =A0I think many races
> > feel that way, not just the Jews.
>
> Absolutely. =A0Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans, French, and many more.
=A0But=

> it is still racism.
>
> > However, most Jews do not believe
> > that the Jewish people have a station above other peoples. =A0That, I
> > think, is as fairly small phenomenon. =A0No one in my family or
friends
> > who are Jewish feel that way.
>
> Do NONE of them believe they belong to the "chosen people"? =A0If they
> do, it is racism. =A0If not, you live in a very unusual pocket of Jews.
>
> > However, I think among some of the
> > orthodox sects that feeling may indeed be there, although I still
> > wouldn't call it racism. =A0More like grandiosity or triumphalism or
> > something like that. =A0Racism seeks to explicitly make others
inferior
> > under the law or within institutions. =A0Just saying "Jews are
special"
> > does not do this.
>
> Would you like some examples? =A0Here is a
selection:http://www.daatemet.o=
rg/articles/article.cfm?article_id=3D119&lang=3Den
>
> We have already mentioned the words of the Ra'avad with regards to an
> animal slaughtered by a Gentile: "for the Gentiles are like
> animals...and one who thinks of them as something [worthwhile] will
> gather the wind in his fist."
>
> ... as Chazal said: 'You are called men and the nations are not called
> men,' as though it were an ordinary thing for them, that the
> comparison between Israel and the Gentiles is similar to the
> comparison between man and animals who cannot speak.
>
> The Maharal of Prague OBM, explains the saying of Rabbi ****mon bar
> Yochai, "You are called men" in a number of places. In the book
> Gevurot HaShem chapter 44 (page 167) he wrote: "...for even if all
> human beings have a common shape, there still is a distinction...there
> are nations who have more of a tendency towards the physical and their
> actions testify to this, for they are inclined towards lust and
> abominable things. This is evidence of their materialistic
> nature...and as we find animals, which are like an intermediary
> between man and the rest of the animal world, such as the
> monkey...likewise there exist men -- who are not completely men.
>
> E. Rabbi Abraham Issac HaCohen Kook, first chief Rabbi of Palestine:
> In the book "Orot," Orot Yisrael chapter 5, article 10 (page 156),Rabbi
Ko=
ok wrote: "The difference between the Jewish soul, in all its
>
> independence, inner desires, longings, character and standing, and the
> soul of all the Gentiles, on all of their levels, is greater and
> deeper than the difference between the soul of a man and the soul of
> an animal, for the difference in the latter case is one of quantity,
> while the difference in the first case is one of essential quality."
>
> > There is some real racism among some Jews, and the
> > most glaring example is the treatment of Palestinians in some aspects
of=

> > Israeli-Palestinian life. =A0Most Israelis however do not agree with
thi=
s
> > mistreatment and want to correct it.
>
> Racism permeates both doctrine and practice, both historically and
> present-day. =A0Read the Jewish Encyclopedia article on
Gentiles.http://je=
wishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=3D142&letter=3DG&search=3Dgentile
>
> Consider the doctrine that the greatest suffering in the war was
> inflicted on the Jews. =A0Consider the only people who demanded
> retributions and received from Germany (Israel). =A0Consider the
> Holocaust monuments and museums throughout America, all without a
> single memorial to the many millions more Americans, Ukrainians,
> Austrians, Russians, Cossacks, French, British, and others who died -
> unless they were Jewish (or maybe homo***ual or Gypsy). =A0The history
> is twisted to represent that only the Jewish deaths mattered.
>
> Racism is a very big problem in Judaism. =A0Like a White Southerner who
> does not SEE racism among his neighbors, you do not see racism in
> yourself or your friends. =A0How could you?
>
> TCross

Thank you so much, Terry, for illuminating a place that doesn't get
much illumination, namely the brain of Robert Epstein.  What is
alarming about Jewish racism is that the Jews of high attainment ARE
tampering with spiritual, i.e. occult, powers, and they are using them
to promote their agenda of total racism.  It is a scary combination,
because they seem to be able to fool most of the people most of the
time.  We must really pray in all sincerity for the protection of the
true LORD of Israel, Jehoshua Mo****ach, who died precisely for this
reason, to limit the Jewish misuse of the power of G-D, which would
otherwise destroy the human race.  At this moment, its survival is
surely in the balance.  After this manner pray ye:


Our father who art in heaven (KRIYA BABAJI NAGARAJ)

Hallowed be thy name (OM KRIYA BABAJI NAMA RUPA KALA DESA AUM)

Thy kingdom come (AUM SIVA SWAMINE NAMAHA, AUM GANA SWAMINE NAMAHA,
AUM SARVA SWAMINE NAMAHA, AUM PARA BRAHMANE NAMAHA)

Thy will be done (BABAJI JESUS KRISHNA)

On earth (JUDAH) as it is in heaven (ISRAEL)


All who do this prayer, with these meanings, will become Jews of the
New Covenant.  So sayeth Saint Peter, the Vicar of Christ.
 




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"Varekem" <h  2008-04-06 04:06:16 
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Engineer <invalid@[EMA  2008-04-06 15:45:12 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-07 00:31:38 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-13 20:14:39 
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"Dr. Lippschitz"  2008-04-10 04:37:09 
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cactus <cactus@[EMAIL   2008-04-15 05:35:30 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-22 18:41:45 
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cactus <cactus@[EMAIL   2008-04-22 22:56:23 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-24 00:34:45 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-04-15 05:16:19 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-14 23:00:05 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-15 00:41:18 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-22 22:47:30 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-23 23:40:24 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-22 22:50:42 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-23 22:53:12 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-23 00:26:04 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-23 22:59:28 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 01:04:08 
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"B.H. Cramer" &  2008-04-24 19:55:15 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-24 18:56:52 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 01:27:38 
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"B.H. Cramer" &  2008-04-24 19:57:33 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-24 19:00:32 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-27 20:41:32 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 01:35:42 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-24 19:03:05 
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z <gzuckier@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-24 08:02:18 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 17:07:12 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 20:58:32 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 21:03:45 
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cactus <cactus@[EMAIL   2008-04-25 05:36:47 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-27 20:40:49 
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cactus <cactus@[EMAIL   2008-04-27 18:46:58 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-27 20:39:54 
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"Yowie" <yow  2008-04-29 07:03:40 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 21:06:59 
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Matt Giwer <jull43@[EM  2008-04-27 20:43:11 
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cactus <cactus@[EMAIL   2008-04-27 18:50:14 
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JTEM <jtem01@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-27 13:57:25 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-29 20:06:00 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-29 20:16:55 
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NefeshBarYohai <tachna  2008-04-13 14:17:56 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-04-13 16:49:32 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-13 20:23:52 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-04-09 04:45:06 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-08 22:36:16 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-08 22:41:11 
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herbzet <herbzet@[EMAI  2008-04-09 03:30:09 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-09 22:45:53 
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Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-04-10 17:09:32 
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Don Stockbauer <donsto  2008-04-10 02:07:34 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-12 14:32:40 
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Terry Cross <tcross77@  2008-04-12 20:28:37 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-14 02:28:31 
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Day Brown <daybrown@[E  2008-05-12 22:41:13 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 04:22:57 
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Robert Epstein <vze256  2008-05-13 15:12:44 
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Mordecai <"mldavi  2008-05-13 14:55:54 
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saint7peter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-13 00:21:31 
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Mordecai <"mldavi  2008-05-13 17:15:28 
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