Re: Why was Jesus crucified?

On Mar 31, 9:01=A0pm, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Mar 31, 6:52 pm, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>On Mar 31, 1:31 pm, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>On Mar 31, 10:42 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>>saint7pe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>>>Anyone who actually reads the Talmud and the writings of
Maimonides=
,
> >>>>>>>for instance, knows that Judaism is very strongly racist, more
> >>>>>>>strongly than any other religion or belief system on earth. =A0If
y=
ou
> >>>>>>>deny that, you are either ignorant or a lying demagogue yourself.
=
=A0I
> >>>>>>>presume the latter. =A0Anyone who tries to reason with the Jews
on =
this
> >>>>>>>newsgroup, knows how demented they are and completely incapable
of
> >>>>>>>dialogue or reason. =A0All they do is present deadening dogma
meant=
 to
> >>>>>>>intimidate.
>
> >>>>>>Okay, pj, I don't want to intimidate you, although I'm sure that
wou=
ld
> >>>>>>be impossible anyway. =A0Let's "reason" together, as you request
abo=
ve.
> >>>>>>Give me a single quote from the Talmud that is racist, and give me
o=
ne
> >>>>>>example of racism in Judaism. =A0I'm not asking you to review your
e=
ntire
> >>>>>>argument, which I apparently missed. =A0How about just one piece
of
> >>>>>>evidence to show that you have something to back up your view.
=A0Is=
 that
> >>>>>>asking too much?
>
> >>>>>>Now I will freely admit that there is institutional racism in the
> >>>>>>treatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli government. =A0I
consid=
er
> >>>>>>that more of a horrible political situation than anything else,
whic=
h
> >>>>>>needs to be corrected. =A0And there are definitely some Jews that
ar=
e
> >>>>>>racists, just as there are racists in every community. =A0But show
m=
e that
> >>>>>>Judaism itself is "strongly racist" as you assert above, and "more
> >>>>>>strongly than any other religion or belief system on earth" as you
s=
ay
> >>>>>>above. =A0Just give an illustration of each of those assertions,
so =
we can
> >>>>>>both be reasonable and talk about evidence instead of mere belief.
>
> >>>>>>Robert
>
> >>>>>>- - - - - - - - - -
>
> >>>>>All "published" Jews think there is something special about Jews
vis-=
a-
> >>>>>vis the "Jewish soul." =A0 The literature commpares the souls of
> >>>>>Gentiles to the souls of animals, by comparison to the souls of
Jews.=

> >>>>>You may or may not know the doctrine of the five levels of soul:
> >>>>>Ruah, Nefesh, Neshamah, Chayah, and Yechidah. =A0JHVH only exists
wit=
hin
> >>>>>this "Jewish soul," and so Gentiles can not know JHVH in the way
that=

> >>>>>Jews can. =A0Although, JHVH is unquiqely the "Jewish G-D," he
governs=

> >>>>>all, and all must be obedient to JHVH, even though they cannot have
> >>>>>same intimate relation****p to JHVH that Jews can. =A0The Noahide
Laws=

> >>>>>enforce this unbalanced state of affairs. =A0The Gentiles, to avoid
> >>>>>destruction, must acknowledge the Jewish G-D and avoid wor****pping
or=

> >>>>>even achkonwledging any other God, including a God that might be
> >>>>>unique to the particular Gentiles. =A0The Gentile nation must adopt
a=

> >>>>>judicial system that enforces the exclusive belief in the Jewish
G-D,=

> >>>>>thus destroying the separation of church and state. =A0Now here's
the=

> >>>>>kicker: =A0a Public Law was passed by Congress in 1991 honoring
Rebbe=

> >>>>>Schneerson on his birthday and proclaiming the Noahide Laws in
> >>>>>principle within the United States, thus destroying American
> >>>>>democracy, in principle. =A0The only thing that has saved us is the
> >>>>>death of Rebbe Schneerson, which extinguished the possibility that
he=

> >>>>>could be regarded as the Messiah. =A0Otherwise, we might have a
Jewis=
h
> >>>>>theocracy today, instead of an American democracy. =A0This needs
look=
ing
> >>>>>into, but I believe we came as close to that dire end as to a
literal=

> >>>>>end during the Cuban Missle Crisis. =A0We have only the true G-D of
> >>>>>Israel to thank for extingui****ng the Antichrist, Rebbe Scheerson,
> >>>>>before he could rise to power.
>
> >>>>Well, thanks for discussing what you meant by "Jewish racism." =A0I
wo=
uld
> >>>>not call it that, as it is not prejudice against a particular race,
bu=
t
> >>>>more of an avowal of specialness for one's own race. =A0I think many
r=
aces
> >>>>feel that way, not just the Jews. =A0However, most Jews do not
believe=

> >>>>that the Jewish people have a station above other peoples. =A0That,
I
> >>>>think, is as fairly small phenomenon. =A0No one in my family or
friend=
s
> >>>>who are Jewish feel that way. =A0However, I think among some of the
> >>>>orthodox sects that feeling may indeed be there, although I still
> >>>>wouldn't call it racism. =A0More like grandiosity or triumphalism or
> >>>>something like that. =A0Racism seeks to explicitly make others
inferio=
r
> >>>>under the law or within institutions. =A0Just saying "Jews are
special=
"
> >>>>does not do this. =A0There is some real racism among some Jews, and
th=
e
> >>>>most glaring example is the treatment of Palestinians in some
aspects =
of
> >>>>Israeli-Palestinian life. =A0Most Israelis however do not agree with
t=
his
> >>>>mistreatment and want to correct it.
>
> >>>>Robert
>
> >>>I did not give you an example. =A0You wanted stuff from the
literature.=

> >>>That is there, throughout the literature, but you'll have to read it
-
> >>>I'm not going to read it for you. =A0Please stfu until you do read
the
> >>>actual literature for yourself. =A0As always, you speak and accuse
out
> >>>of total ignorance. =A0**** you, Robert. =A0You suck the big one.
>
> >>Then it can't have been yours. =A0If you had said I suck the little
one
> >>then it could have possibly been you. =A0I guess you just suck in
genera=
l.
> >> =A0So **** you too!
>
> >>Robert
>
> > I see your obsession is getting deeper and deeper. =A0Obsess away,
> > demon. =A0Guessing the size of my dick - that is what you are reduced
> > to. =A0What a moron.
>
> hey, you brought it up in the first place, cocksucker. =A0It's not my
> fault that it's too small to see.
>
> Robert

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