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Nephi and Pharao Necho

by Nick Youngh <dejonghnico@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 26, 2008 at 08:42 AM

This string is about my theory, that the events in the Book of Mormon
could be traced in our European history books, looking it up in the
same years.
We saw that Mormon patriarch Lehi son Nephi murdered vazal king
Gedalya
and fled to the South of Egypt between the borders of the Red Sea and
the river Nile, crossuing the than functionning Necho's Nile-Red Sea
Channel. After the land of Kush and at the hight of Mero=EB he went
Eastwards .

Lehi  fled between a big river (the Nile) and the Red Sea to the
south-south-east(Blue Nile) and made the dessert crossing wading
through the swampy land Bountifull (Sudan) to the Sea Irreantum
(Eritrea),what means many waters. (in Greek too)


Now we come to the most im****tant part: where he sailed from Erithrea
to the promissed land (America according to the Mormons or Israel
according to me.


>From this part on, as before  all events happen inthe Middle East and


not in America.

In Irreantum/Eritrea Nephi enters the water, floates with the strong
Red Sea tide (1Ne18:8) and comes in the study Indian Moesson
winds.(1Ne18:9)


Once across the equator the Liahona (Armillary globe)  gives up (1Ne
18.12)


Without direction they came near the Storm Cape (1Ne 18:13).
Seemingly
around the Stormcape the storm blowed them to the north, were they
recognised the stars again and the Liahona / Armllary globe worked
again.(1Ne18:21)


and Lehi could guide (NB: guide) his ****p to the promissed land
Canaan
(1Ne 18:22)
Once in the promissed land they saw animals, that did not exist in
America, but do so in Isra=EBl.(1Ne 18:25) and the seeds taken from
Jerusalem growed in abundance.


So the controversial Mormon seatravel of Lehi and Nephi went from
Eritrea around Afrika to Isra=EBl.


This does not make it more sense ,wasn't it that there was an
indentical historical Sea travel at the same time (594bC) by Pharao
Necho written, down by the father of History writing Herodotus:


Herodotus on Necho in Histori=EBn
6.Psammetichos1 had a son called Nekos 2, who was king of Egypt. He
began building a canal to the Sea of Erythrias3, which was finished
by
the Persian Darius4. It takes four days to travel along it, and its
width is such that two triremes could be rowed in it side by side.
7 At today's Suez      It is fed by the waters of the Nile, and
begins
a little above Bubastis 5 by Patumus 6, an Arabian town. It ends in
the
Red Sea7. The excavation was began in the part of the Egyptian plain
which is nearest to Arabia. The mountains, where the stone quarries
are
and which are close to Memphis, are near this plain. The canal was
dug
along the foot of these mountains from west to east, passing through
a
gorge. It turns to the south out of the hill country towards the
Arabian Gulf.
8  The Meditarranean
9  The Red Sea
10 Two hundred kilometres       The shortest trajectory from the
northern8 to the southern9 Sea leads from the hill of Kasiou, the
border between Egypt and Syria, to the Arabian Gulf, and it is just a
thousand stadia10 long. The canal is much longer than this shortest
trajectory, as it twists more. During the king****p of Nekos a hundred
and twenty thousand Egyptians died excavating it. Nekos stopped work
because of an oracle saying that he was working beforehand for the
barbarian. The Egyptians call barbarians all men speaking other
languages.
 Nekos, then, stopped work on the canal and turned to war; some of
his
triremes were constructed by the northern sea, and some in the
Arabian
Gulf, by the coast of the Sea of Erythrias. The windl***** for
beaching
the ****ps can still be seen.
11 Migdol
12 Gaza
13 Psammetic II, 594-587      He deployed these ****ps as needed, and
his army defeated the Syrians at Magdolus11 taking the great Syrian
city of Cadytis12 after the battle. He sent the clothes he had worn
in
these battles to Branchidae of Miletus and dedicated them to Apollo .
Then he died after a reign of sixteen years, and his son Psammis13
reigned in his place.
Histories 2,158f
 14 Africa
15 The straits of Gibraltar       Libya14 shows clearly that it is
surrounded by the sea, except where it borders on Asia. Nekos king of
Egypt made this discovery first known. When he had stopped the
digging
of the canal connecting the Nile to the Arabian Gulf, he sent
Phoenicians in ****ps, with orders to sail on their return voyage past
the Pillars of Heracles15 until they entered the northern sea and so
returned to Egypt.
    The Phoenicians set out from the Red Sea and sailed the southern
sea. Whenever autumn came they landed and planted grain in the part
of
Libya they had reached, and there they waited for harvest time. Then,
after gathering the crop, they continued their voyage, so that two
years had passed. It was in the third year that they rounded the
Pillars of Heracles and returned to Egypt. There they claimed and
some
may believe it, though I do not, that when sailing around Libya they
had the sun on their right hand.


Histories 4,42
1 Nephi 18: 8


18:8 And it came to pass after we had all gone down into the ****p,
and
had taken with us our provisions and things which had been commanded
us, we did put forth into the sea and were driven forth before the
wind
towards the promised land.


18:9 And after we had been driven forth before the wind for the space
of many days, behold, my brethren and the sons of Ishmael and also
their wives began to make themselves merry, insomuch that they began
to
dance, and to sing, and to speak with much rudeness, yea, even that
they did forget by what power they had been brought thither; yea,
they
were lifted up unto exceeding rudeness.


18:10 And I, Nephi, began to fear exceedingly lest the Lord should be
angry with us, and smite us because of our iniquity, that we should
be
swallowed up in the depths of the sea; wherefore, I, Nephi, began to
speak to them with much soberness; but behold they were angry with
me,
saying: We will not that our younger brother shall be a ruler over
us.


18:11 And it came to pass that Laman and Lemuel did take me and bind
me
with cords, and they did treat me with much harshness; nevertheless,
the Lord did suffer it that he might show forth his power, unto the
fulfilling of his word which he had spoken concerning the wicked.


18:12 And it came to pass that after they had bound me insomuch that
I
could not move, the compass, which had been prepared of the Lord, did
cease to work.


18:13 Wherefore, they knew not whither they should steer the ****p,
insomuch that there arose a great storm, yea, a great and terrible
tempest, and we were driven back upon the waters for the space of
three
days; and they began to be frightened exceedingly lest they should be
drowned in the sea; nevertheless they did not loose me.


18:14 And on the fourth day, which we had been driven back, the
tempest
began to be exceedingly sore.


18:15 And it came to pass that we were about to be swallowed up in
the
depths of the sea. And after we had been driven back upon the waters
for the space of four days, my brethren began to see that the
judgments
of God were upon them, and that they must perish save that they
should
repent of their iniquities; wherefore, they came unto me, and loosed
the bands which were upon my wrist, and behold they had swollen
exceedingly; and also mine ankles were much swollen, and great was
the
soreness thereof.


18:16 Nevertheless, I did look unto my God, and I did praise him all
the day long; and I did not murmur against the Lord because of mine
afflictions.


18:17 Now my father, Lehi, had said many things unto them, and also
unto the sons of Ishmael; but, behold, they did breathe out much
threatenings against anyone that should speak for me; and my parents
being stricken in years, and having suffered much grief because of
their children, they were brought down, yea, even upon their sick-
beds.


18:18 Because of their grief and much sorrow, and the iniquity of my
brethren, they were brought near even to be carried out of this time
to
meet their God; yea, their grey hairs were about to be brought down
to
lie low in the dust; yea, even they were near to be cast with sorrow
into a watery grave.


18:19 And Jacob and Joseph also, being young, having need of much
nourishment, were grieved because of the afflictions of their mother;
and also my wife with her tears and prayers, and also my children,
did
not soften the hearts of my brethren that they would loose me.


18:20 And there was nothing save it were the power of God, which
threatened them with destruction, could soften their hearts;
wherefore,
when they saw that they were about to be swallowed up in the depths
of
the sea they repented of the thing which they had done, insomuch that
they loosed me.


18:21 And it came to pass after they had loosed me, behold, I took
the
compass, and it did work whither I desired it. And it came to pass
that
I prayed unto the Lord; and after I had prayed the winds did cease,
and
the storm did cease, and there was a great calm.


18:22 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did guide the ****p, that we
sailed again towards the promised land.


18:23 And it came to pass that after we had sailed for the space of
many days we did arrive at the promised land; and we went forth upon
the land, and did pitch our tents; and we did call it the promised
land.


18:24 And it came to pass that we did begin to till the earth, and we
began to plant seeds; yea, we did put all our seeds into the earth,
which we had brought from the land of Jerusalem. And it came to pass
that they did grow exceedingly; wherefore, we were blessed in
abundance.


18:25 And it came to pass that we did find upon the land of promise,
as
we journeyed in the wilderness, that there were beasts in the forests
of every kind, both the cow and the ox, and the ass and the horse,
and
the goat and the wild goat, and all manner of wild animals, which
were
for the use of men. And we did find all manner of ore, both of gold,
and of silver, and of copper.


(unquote)
Could it possibly be, that the stories in the Book of Mormon and in
Historie=EBn of Herodotus are relating the same journey ?
Let's compare the texts:


Farao Necho ruled from 610-594bC over Egypt;
The Book of Mormon dates the sea travel  around 590bC


Necho's Nile-Red Sea Channel we recognised allready in the previous
entry.


The sailors from pharao Necho were Phoenicians, the Nephites waren
Jews
(and Ammonites)


The Phoenicians begot ****ps, Nephi build them with iron tools.


The story about plantings seeds and harvesting  we find in 1Ne18
The duration of the seatravel, 3 years is confirm with the dates at
the
bottom of the pages.De (590-588vC).


The strange behaviour of the sun during the rounding we find back in
the texts about the not functioning of the Liahona (1Ne 18:9-21)


What a pity, that the historici do not know the name of the captain
of
pharao Necho, or do they ?
There are scientists (Velikovsky-1978) who say that Necho II the
Greek
name for Ramses II was. Ramses II as well had build a channel from
the
Nile to the Red Sea and let his son as reward marry to a Phoenician
captain Ben Anath (J.Breasted: a history of Egypt. pag. 449). Ben
Anath
? Sun of Anath? Anatoth perhaps ?
Jeremia, wasn't he the man of Anathoth ? (Jer 1:1)


Moreover there are many legendary stories, that Jereniah visited
Europe
and Ingland. Historicans also think that Jeremiah came back to
Jerusalem from the North, however as a freed prisioner of war of
Nebukadnezar


Impossible, you will say: if Jeremia/Lehi sailed around Afrika to the
middle east, his arrival would have been written down somewhere.  It
is
, by the same Herodotus in another story without realising the
connection and connecting them even to the famous Tarsish.


XVI. 4. Erythia, or Rusava island, near the Columns of Hercules.


Close to the Columns of Hercules was situated, as the ancient
geographers tell, the island, which the Greeks named Erythia (Rosia,
Rusava - TN: the Red, Ruddy), in which the giant king, called in
Greek
legends Geryon, kept at pasture his magnificent cattle herds, cows
and
oxen with wide foreheads and flexible legs (Livy, lib. I. c. 7;
Hesiod,
Theog. V. 290-291).
Among the twelve labours which the king Eurystheus of Mycenae had
imposed on Hercules, the tenth was to bring him the famous herds of
Geryon from the Erythia island. Hercules, Apollodorus tells us (Bibl.
Lib. II. 5. 10), after arriving near Oceanos, where Erythia island
was,
erects in the mountains two columns, one facing the other, as
monumental markers of his travel, then kills the herdsman Eurythion
and
his dog called Orthros, takes Geryon's herds and departs. Geryon
though, hearing of this theft, runs after Hercules and catches up
with
him at the river called Anthemunta. The fight starts. Hercules shoots
Geryon down with an arrow, takes the herds into Abderia and from here
into the land of the Lygiens. Here he is confronted by the heroes
Alebion and Dercunos (Dercynos), who want to take his herds. But
Hercules kills them also, and continues on his way across Tyrrhenia.


The pronounciation in English and Latin  for Jeremiah and Geryones
does
not differ that much, that they could be the same.


Jeremia had his landfall in the near east, so, where did Lehi go to ?
Lehi pronounced by the Americans as Leechai, sounds very much like
the
pronounciation of Lycia a small city state on the South west coast of
Anatolia, settled by the Phoenicians around 600vC.


The circle of the proof is round:
Mormon patriarch Lehi was Jeremia, Ben Anath, the captain of pharao
Necho II, who sailed around Africa.


And Nephi ?, well look to the Egyptian name of his son Psammis:
Nefer.
Could Nephi not have been the son in law of Lehi ?


Greek name  Egyptian name
Necho I        Mencheperra Necho I 672-664
Psammetichus Wahibra Psamtik I 664-610
Necho II        Wehemibra Necho II 610-595
Psammis      Neferibra Psamtik II 595-589
Apries           Ha'a'ibra Wahibra 589-567
Amasis         Chenibra Amose-si-Neith 570-526
 




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