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Re: Heavenly Mother ? God angered by devotion & wor****p of the of

by rasqual <scott.marquardt@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 17, 2008 at 11:37 PM

On Feb 14, 9:38 am, joseph_daniel_zuki...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On 2月12日, 午前6:19, rasqual
<scott.marqua...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > Would it imperil the celestial salvation of LdS at all, if they
> > actively rejected belief in HM?
>
> Depends on the individual, the time, and on what said individual might
> understand at that particular time (and other issues, which are issues
> of context, but which, being called issues of context, lose meaning).

CFR, please?

Some official Mormon teaching on this -- perhaps from LdS.org?

> > If they believed emphatically that HM
> > did not exist, and that LdS who believe so are "weak brothers" who are
> > engaging in frontier superstition -- who need to be humored but gently
> > encouraged to be turned toward more fundamental matters of greater
> > im****t in respect of eternal salvation?
>
> Well, my understanding of things is that pride tends to be other than
> a saving influence.

Why would that be pride, whereas summary denunciations of
fundamentalist Mormons by church leaders would not be pride as well?

> In general, any time we believe in any principle to the point where we
> feel a need to "convert" our "weak brothers" who don't believe the
> same we, we have lost our testimonies in the core truths.

So any time a genuinely flighty brother is speculating into the ozone
like some theological Peter Pan, your sense of personal guilt should
keep you silent, on the ground, just watching him float off into the
distance?

> Barring issues of pride, I would not see that as a specific
> determinant, without correlating it with the individual's continued
> focus on the fundamentals. If belief in a heavenly mother (capitalized
> or otherwise) leads the individual to faith in Jesus, to repentance,
> to prayer (but to Heavenly Father), scripture study, etc., it would
> not be an impediment. If it leads away, it would.

How about belief in a heavenly menagerie of pets? I'm not being
facetious. Or what if the price of all those benefits was that this
person would also pray to HM. How could you deny the evidence of
increased faith in Jesus, increased repentence, increased prayer and
scripture study, if enumerated among all these increases was the
simple addition of at least a modi*** of prayer to HM?

- S
 




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"Greg" <gran  2008-02-09 14:55:07 
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Curmugeon <gfuller1930  2008-02-10 05:46:48 
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"Greg" <gran  2008-02-11 21:15:42 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-12 02:50:35 
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John S.Colton <idislik  2008-02-14 02:06:20 
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"Greg" <gran  2008-02-15 14:53:23 
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Curmugeon <gfuller1930  2008-02-14 04:09:29 
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joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-02-14 15:39:18 
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"hlillywh@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-14 15:40:21 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-02-16 16:58:56 
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joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-02-16 17:03:24 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-17 16:43:51 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-02-22 00:39:04 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-17 16:45:20 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-02-22 00:37:20 
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gary0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-21 03:28:59 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-23 17:20:04 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-02-24 22:28:49 
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ALDEN <aldenbeaman@[EM  2008-02-26 16:21:26 
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John <ewsnet@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-10 05:47:11 
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joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-02-11 04:26:29 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-11 21:19:16 
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joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-02-14 15:38:01 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-17 23:37:51 
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Amicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 16:23:54 
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Bruce in alaska <fast@  2008-02-26 19:02:53 
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Amicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 23:22:03 
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Amicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-26 23:53:13 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-02-27 05:02:47 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-02-27 21:45:34 

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