Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe?

On Feb 16, 10:12 am, John <ews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 11:25 am, rasqual <scott.marqua...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > To imagine that Mormonism has restored a sense of pro****tion with
> > regard to transcendence and immanence that dates back to the pagans,
> > and was eclipsed as Judaism and Christianity rejected immanentism, is
> > a stretch that can only keep utter alienation in place between
> > orthodoxy and Mormonism.
>
> > Sorry 'bout that.
>
> There is no need to apologize. The orthodoxy and LDS doctrine will
> never agree. That is the entire purpose of the restoration, to correct
> error, and to replace that which was lost, to add to our knowledge and
> understanding,

The point I'm harping on, however, is the way Mormons jeopardize *what
concord is possible* by indulging speculations their faith does not
*obligate* them to embrace. That has nothing whatsoever to do with
correcting error -- in fact, it might well consist of courting it. It
has nothing to do with replacing what was lost, and everything to do
with causing needless conflict. It has everything to do with
SPECULATING, not with adding knowledge and understanding. And it
increases alienation as a result.

Orthodox and Mormonism may never agree on fundamentals, but some
Mormons are willing to construct a tower of trivia to make the
separation all the more marked and solid.

But as to the above paragraph, you're not responding to it so much as
you're reciting a mantra -- a talking point. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE
PARAGRAPH?

> As far as speculation on Gods and photons, if that upsets those on the
> "outside" that is their problem. There is more to life and to our
> existence, than simply repeating the same old, worn out, and usually
> misunderstood "popular" handful of scriptures of the new testament.
> When you limit yourself to repetitive reading and refuse to open your
> mind, you limit God, and what He can do, and will do, for anyone who
> wants to find out more about Him.

In other words, any speculation may be defended as creative thinking.

What you just said could be claimed as a rationale for any speculation
whatsoever, by anyone, however irresponsible their speculations. Do
you realize that?

> Sorry, but orthodox christianity is a dead end, and does not allow God
> to do anything for the good of His people.

You really need to get out more.

> It locks him into the
> "bible box"

That's like going to a Neil Young concert and lamenting that he's not
singing Dolly Parton.

> and anything that He might now wish to share with His
> people, is rejected completely, and without consideration. Big mistake
> to tell God what He can, and cannot do.

Such remarks sound better on the lips of Mormon fundamentalists who
seem to have had a lot more revelation than the long string of
relatively milquetoast Mormon prophets, whose "revelations" have
consisted of things like catching up with civil rights.    :-\

- S