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Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe?

by Jeff <jeff_x02@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 8, 2008 at 04:00 PM

This is a quote from the FAIR JOURNAL - January 2008 - The Foundation
for Apologetic Information and Research.

"The honesty problem comes up when the Evangelical world and the
Mormon world collide. The questions posed to Mormons come from a basis
in anti-Mormonism meant to expose how the Mormons are weird and belong
to a cult. Is Jesus Satan's brother? Is there a God before God? Where
does God live? Will you be creating your own planet? While you can
find something written by a Mormon somewhere on all these items, these
questions fall into the speculative area and are not core doctrines of
Mormonism. This means if you ask several different Mormons, you will
likely get several different answers. And Mormons have no problem with
that."

Let us examine 3 of these questions:

1. Is Jesus Satan's brother?
2. Is there a God before God?
3. Will you be creating your own planet?

To be honest with you, I believe the answers to these questions can be
regarded as the core doctrines on which Mormonism is based - one of
which is called Eternal Progression.

As for the doctrine of there being a Heavenly Mother and Father - this
doctrine was affirmed in plainness by the First Presidency of the
Church (Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund) when, in
speaking of pre-existence and the origin of man, they said that "man,
as a spirit was begotten and born of heavenly parents, and reared to
maturity in the eternal mansions
of the Father, and that man is the offspring of celestial
parentage" (Man: His Origin and Destiny, pages 348-355).

These fundamental Mormon principles (doctrines) are taught to
missionaries in such Church publications as Gospel Principles, Gospel
Fundamentals, Doctrines of the Gospel Student
Manual, Ensign (the official Church magazine) and in some places in
the LDS accepted revelation from God - the Doctrine and Covenants.

If you ask different Mormons these questions and you find yourself
getting different answers, I would blame it on their lack of knowledge
of what their church teaches.

Should Mormons as a whole be concerned about giving different answers
to the same questions?

I would say yes.

Wouldn't they want to fall in line with their church leader****p
(believed to be the prophets of God) or whomever is approving these
instructional manuals?  After all, you don't want to deceive people
with speculation, do you?  Or is the average Mormon more correct in
their answers than the sometimes opposing answers that arise from
their church leader****p and teaching manuals?

Please do not consider people as anti-mormon for asking these
questions of Latter-day Saints.

How many Latter-day Saints on this newsgroup believe the answers to
questions 1, 2, and 3 are speculative instead of real doctrines of
your church?

And wouldn't you agree that the answers to these questions determines
whether you are placing your faith in a true or false Jesus, and a
true or false church?

I do not mind LDS students (and other church members] sharing their
views on blogs and responding to online news re****ts as the thread by
John - "Blogging and Writing about the Church" mentioned, but I hope
they would be more forthcoming in some of their answers.

Remember when on Tuesday, December 11, 2007, the Associated Press
re****ted that Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee would, in
an upcoming article in the Sunday New York Times Magazine ask, "Don't
Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

By the end of the following day, Wednesday, December 12, Huckabee had
already begun back-pedaling and apologizing for the remark. Earlier on
Wednesday Mitt Romney had appeared on NBC's Today show criticizing
Huckabee for "attacking" his religion and the "Newsroom" section of
the LDS Church's official website posted a brief response on the
question of the fraternal connection of Jesus and Satan, though
without mentioning Huckabee: "Like other Christians," the response
read, "we believe Jesus is the divine Son of God. Satan is a fallen
angel. As the Apostle Paul wrote, God is the Father of all. That means
that all beings were created by God and are His spirit children.
Christ, however, was the only begotten in the flesh,
and we wor****p Him as the Son of God and the Savior of mankind."

But at the end of it, the LDS Church did not answer the question to
the initial query.
A simple "Yes, but ..." answer would have sufficed.

Are there questions asked by Latter-day Saints that would be
considered as attacking the religion of evangelicals for instance?

Jeff
 




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Jeff <jeff_x02@[EMAIL   2008-02-08 16:00:06 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-02-16 17:01:23 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-16 02:05:40 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-26 16:29:36 
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joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-02-27 15:23:46 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-28 17:30:14 
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Must all Mormons believe the same set of dogma? (Was about Hones
Curmugeon <gfuller1930  2008-02-10 15:19:45 
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D_Frumious_B@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-10 22:15:26 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-11 15:52:35 
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Curmugeon <gfuller1930  2008-02-11 15:54:07 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-14 02:04:03 
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joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-02-10 22:02:26 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-11 04:28:35 
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John <ewsnet@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-10 22:09:34 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-11 04:27:57 
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Curmugeon <gfuller1930  2008-02-12 02:49:08 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-12 15:49:03 
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Curmugeon <gfuller1930  2008-02-14 04:14:57 
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deborah <mormondeborah  2008-02-24 22:26:19 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-02-25 03:18:28 
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gary0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-29 22:29:24 
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rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-02 04:51:46 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
John S.Colton <idislik  2008-03-04 01:16:46 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-04 05:34:19 
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"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-04 23:50:38 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-05 16:15:12 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-05 22:45:13 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-06 15:05:23 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-07 15:53:59 
who's catching up with whom?
joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-03-07 16:01:49 
Re: who's catching up with whom?
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-09 05:40:00 
Re: who's catching up with whom?
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-10 14:24:36 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-09 06:09:28 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-10 14:22:38 
Re: Are Mormons really honest about explaining what they believe
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-12 18:42:03 
am not sure that re Mormons really honest about explaining what
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-13 14:38:00 
Re: am not sure that re Mormons really honest about explaining w
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-14 16:00:28 
Re: am not sure that re Mormons really honest about explaining w
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-15 03:20:25 
different baptisms?
joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-03-15 17:26:00 
Re: different baptisms?
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-16 14:35:38 
Re: am not sure that re Mormons really honest about explaining w
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-15 18:29:01 
Re: different baptisms?
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-16 14:36:27 
Re: am not sure that re Mormons really honest about explaining w
gary0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-18 15:34:31 
Re: different baptisms?
joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-03-19 13:29:53 
Re: different baptisms?
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-20 13:53:59 
Re: different baptisms?
joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-03-19 15:19:40 
Re: different baptisms?
"Curmudgeon" &l  2008-03-21 14:22:54 
Re: am not sure that re Mormons really honest about explaining w
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-22 14:06:19 
Re: different baptisms?
rasqual <scott.marquar  2008-03-22 15:57:33 
Re: different baptisms?
joseph_daniel_zukiger@[EM  2008-03-26 04:38:37 

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