"Robert Houghton" <robert45@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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Date: Apr 20, 12:55 pm
<snip> ...
> ... The issue is NOT the authenticity or value of the hadith; it is the
> taqiyya - lying in the interests of Islam (which is permitted to
> Muslims) -
> of the Saudi Foreign Minister on the American media ...
<snip> ...
Comment:-
To summarise, what is the "taqiyya" argument in this thread? One would
think
that in the real geopolitical world diplomats or politicians, of whatever
persuasion, aren't evasive in their own national self-interest?
Yes, the Saudi Foreign Minister is a Muslim. What has that got to do about
the unproven lying in the interests of Islam accusation? George Bush and
Tony Blair (now a well-publicized Catholic convert) are devout Christians,
does it then logically flow that their lying was in the interest of
Christianity? It's like suggesting that Blair was practicing the systemic
and institutionalised Catholic practice of the "Doctrine of Equivocation"
(that is endemic lying to protect the interests of Catholicism and the
Catholic Church [sic]). Is it not?
According to the conservative Margaret Thatcher ; "You don't tell
deliberate
lies, but sometimes you have to be evasive." Doesn't that define the
essence
of this disingenuous "A simple example of taqiyya" trope, in all its
political reality?
I wonder if Robert, as a keen sup****ter of the British Conservative Party,
thinks this form of "lying", by one of its well-loved leaders, somehow
isn't
permitted to Tory Christians, on the extreme right-wing of the political
spectrum? (See previous "Stealth Crusade" threads in this forum for
verification at general link below)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.religion.islam/search?hl=en&group=soc.religion.islam&q=Stealth+Crusade&qt_g=Search+this+group
Perhaps one should then reaffirm that this is just another simple example
of
the artful application of a double-standard that's being used to
distortedly
"criticise" Islam and Muslim beliefs in a malicious banner.
Which raises the altruistic question, is the overt use of a
double-standard
in this peaceful Islamic forum then not a form of taqiyya in actual
practice? Intelligent readers can judge that for themselves.
--
Peace
--
Malice, in its false witness, promotes its tale with so cunning a
confusion,
so mingles truths with falsehoods, surmises with certainties, causes of no
moment with matters capital, that the accused can absolutely neither grant
nor deny, plead innocent. [Sir Philip Sidney]
Zuiko Azumazi.
zuiko.azumazi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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