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Re: There is no doubt in it

by Hajj abujamal <muslims@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 19, 2008 at 09:57 PM

Salaam!

dr.christoph.heger@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 > Actually the translation "this book" is erroneous.  The Arabic
 > demonstrative pronoun "dhâlika" doesn't mean "this", meaning a
 > thing at hand, but "that", pointing to an object farther away.
 > Therefore by "dhâlika l-kitâb" surah 2:2 cannot mean the Koran,
 > but another book.  There hardly can be meant another book than
 > the Bible.

    The idea of the Bible being "that book without doubt in it" is 
singularly hilarious, but then you've always been good for a laugh 
with your "doctoral" pontifications.

    A correct translation is indeed "That book without doubt in it a 
guidance for the respoonsible."

    The Qur'an as we have it is an Arabic recitation of the Inscribed 
Tablet, which is otherwise beyond our perception.  The Inscribed 
Tablet is "That Book without doubt in it" to which our recitation 
refers, just as the Inscribed Tablet ~ which also says "That Book 
without doubt in it" ~ is referring to the Qur'an which we recite.  In 
either case the reference is to the distant book ~ the Arabic Qur'an 
(which we can perceive) refers to the Inscribed Tablet (which we 
cannot perceive), and the Inscribed Tablet refers to the Qur'an. 
There is no doubt in either the Inscribed Tablet or the Arabic Qur'an, 
they are His Word.

    The Bible, while it does contain a guidance for the faithful, is 
even more a record of what the Children of Israel did with what was 
given to them.  You provide ample evidence that is is your book, but 
the Qur'an refers to it in considerably different terms than you would 
like to imagine.

 > Kind regards,
 > Christoph Heger

was-salaam,
abujamal
-- 
astaghfirullahal-ladhee laa ilaha illa
howal-hayyul-qayyoom wa 'atoobu 'ilaihi

Rejoice, muslims, in martyrdom without fighting,
a Mercy for us.  Be like the better son of Adam.
 




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There is no doubt in it
DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-05 13:32:02 
Re: There is no doubt in it
"Altway" <al  2008-04-08 20:05:57 
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Hajj abujamal <muslims  2008-04-19 21:57:47 
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"John Eristu" &  2008-04-19 21:55:10 
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"Altway" <al  2008-04-23 12:15:21 
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Hajj abujamal <muslims  2008-04-19 21:57:50 
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"Zuiko Azumazi"  2008-04-19 21:59:44 
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dr.christoph.heger@[EMAIL  2008-04-19 21:55:11 
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"Saqib Virk" &l  2008-04-24 23:18:39 
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Abdalla Alothman <abda  2008-04-19 21:55:11 
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Abdalla Alothman <abda  2008-04-19 22:00:25 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-23 12:12:59 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-23 12:08:46 
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Robert <robert45@[EMAI  2008-04-26 16:53:08 
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"Saqib Virk" &l  2008-04-30 13:01:49 
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"Zuiko Azumazi"  2008-04-30 13:00:23 
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man06 <bnh_2003@[EMAIL  2008-04-26 16:55:14 
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dr.christoph.heger@[EMAIL  2008-04-30 13:01:21 
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"Altway" <al  2008-05-03 08:35:14 
Re: There is no doubt in it
man06 <bnh_2003@[EMAIL  2008-05-03 08:35:09 
Re: There is no doubt in it
Muhafidh <muhafidh@[EM  2008-05-12 14:49:17 

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