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Re: A simple example of taqiyya

by Muhafidh <muhafidh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 8, 2008 at 08:03 PM

Salâmun 'alaykum,

"Lakum dînukum wa-liya dîn." Yes, a hadith that contradicts the Qur'ân
so strikingly is no more useful for wor****p than goat droppings. Goat
droppings are indeed useful for certain applications, of course, such
as serving as fertilizer or a form of fuel. Bad hadith have a similar
utility. Thus, Muslim 6985, which, as you can see, is only useful to
either Islâmophobic propagandists or Islâmoid extremists such as the
al-Qâ'idah bunch, is not completely without its usefulness.

That anyone would take a hadith as having greater authority than the
Qur'ân that it contradicts is frankly amazing. But yes, it is not just
you (O Robert), but certain Islâmoid extremists as well (that's a
guess, as in fact I can't find any Islâmoid sources that actually use
that). Thus, you may have more in common than you realize, at least as
far as your worldview is concerned. I say again, Muslim didn't care
that the hadîth might be wrong; he only cared that he applied his
hadîth science to it and it survived the process. It's a false
positive.

You do know what a false positive is, don't you? And you do know that
in any application of an empirical methodology you will get some of
these, don't you? Well voilà, there it is. Remember that a reliability
of only 64% (alpha = .80) is considered acceptable in modern empirical
science, and yes, the compilers of the hadîth collections were trying
to apply an empirical method, not divine the mysterious Will of God.
Indeed, the hadîth are certainly comfortably in excess of a level of
reliability of α = .80, which you can see merely by juxtaposing them
to the Qur'ân. Please try doing this in the future. (The same advice
goes to all Islâmoid propagandists who might be tempted to forget that
the Qur'ân is the Word of God, while the hadîth collections are merely
the word of Muslim, Bukhârî, and the rest. Choose wisely,
grasshopper....)

Those who understand that the Qur'ân is the criterion (furqân
[فرقان])
for everything else (yes, that includes the hadîth collections, or
didn't you know?) will not be misled by any goat droppings into which
they happen inadvertently to stick their foot. Those who pick up those
goat dropping and try to pass them off as a fair substitute for the
Qur'ân are awfully confused. To me, they don't look anything like the
'âyât for which the Qur'ân tells us repeatedly to look. Nor do they
smell like 'âyât.

Salâm - Muhafidh
 




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A simple example of taqiyya
"Robert Houghton&quo  2008-03-29 20:55:34 
Re: A simple example of taqiyya
"Zuiko Azumazi"  2008-03-31 13:57:56 
Re: A simple example of taqiyya
Muhafidh <muhafidh@[EM  2008-04-03 07:56:11 
Re: A simple example of taqiyya
"Zuiko Azumazi"  2008-04-08 19:56:38 
Re: A simple example of taqiyya
Robert <robert45@[EMAI  2008-04-05 13:21:46 
Re: A simple example of taqiyya
Robert <robert45@[EMAI  2008-04-05 13:26:32 
Re: A simple example of taqiyya
Muhafidh <muhafidh@[EM  2008-04-08 20:03:20 
Re: A simple example of taqiyya
Robert <robert45@[EMAI  2008-04-19 21:55:45 

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