Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Religion > Christian > Re: Acceptance ...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 21 of 43 Topic 6028 of 6211
Post > Topic >>

Re: Acceptance and growth

by Matthew Johnson <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 01:43 AM

In article <Yn8Sj.8780$r12.7335@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
>
>I don't plan to go on disputing with Matthew Johnson
>when even my side of the argument is lifeless and
>mechanical.

So you say, but you went and did it anyway.

>  The only response I will make to the
>specifics of his April 10 posting is that I agree that
>Ayn Rand was mistaken in one way, and she
>exposed this mistake at the end of her novel
>_Anthem_, when she referred to "this god: EGO."

It is unfortunate that that is the _only_ response you chose to make. For
it
shows that you missed the point.

>I don't want to be a god; it's too much pressure.
>I just want to be a healthy, happy human being,
>and I can't say that Christianity has been much
>conducive to that.

And judging from your posts over the past several months, I would say that
you
are misplacing the blame. It is not Christianity per se that is
responsible for
this. Unfortunately, judging from those same posts, you do not _know_
"Christianity per se". You know only a tragic distortion of it. Whether
that
distortion is due to the bad influences around you or to your own heart's
ability to pervert the call from God, I cannot say.

>
>But there's something else I need to say to
>Mr. Johnson, and I think he needs to hear:

And your thinking this is another error, a fundamental one.

>
>Jesus did not say, in John 17:3, that eternal life
>consisted in knowing a great deal *about* God,

What? You think I don't already know this? Why? Of course I know it. That
you
_presume_ I do not is a sign of presumption on your part -- in both senses
of
the word.

>even if it's written by a great many people both
>famous and obscure, over many centuries, in
>several languages.  He said that eternal life was
>to know *God* and Jesus Christ, whom He had
>sent.  I have to ask Matthew Johnson, despite
>all his knowledge and otherwise admirable
>erudition *about* God:
>
>Do you actually know God?

You should be asking that question of yourself, since the 'God' you
describe is
such a monstrous perversion of the Christian God.

People who _do_ know God say as St. John Chrysostom said as he was dying
in
exile: "glory to God for all things". They do not wilt under suffering and
blame
God for their distress.

[snip]


-- 
------------------------------
Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
 




 43 Posts in Topic:
Acceptance and growth
Jacob <jninan@[EMAIL P  2008-03-04 03:10:15 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-06 04:23:04 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-03-07 03:45:48 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Doodle <Doodle@[EMAIL   2008-03-07 03:45:47 
Re: Acceptance and growth
steveo <gnsemail@[EMAI  2008-03-17 00:19:54 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-17 00:19:56 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-19 00:17:14 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-03-19 00:17:15 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-31 02:35:12 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-04-02 02:09:59 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-07 02:27:26 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-04-08 02:38:15 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-10 03:58:14 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-11 02:20:27 
Re: Acceptance and growth
B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-17 00:33:03 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-18 04:49:36 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-21 02:10:45 
Re: Acceptance and growth
B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-21 02:10:46 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-01 00:44:40 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-05-02 02:44:32 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-05-05 01:43:06 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-09 01:44:51 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-09 01:44:51 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-05-12 02:37:06 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-05-12 02:37:07 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-26 18:05:02 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-26 18:05:03 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-05-31 03:19:16 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-06 02:37:22 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-06-09 00:23:30 
Re: Acceptance and growth
B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-09 00:23:33 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-06-10 02:26:55 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-19 01:11:10 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-20 01:03:31 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-06-23 22:32:49 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-27 01:08:15 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-06-28 15:38:35 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-06-28 15:38:35 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-08 02:01:25 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-08 02:01:26 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Bob Crowley <bobcrowle  2008-07-14 04:11:10 
Re: Acceptance and growth
Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-07-15 03:09:41 
Re: Acceptance and growth
jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-21 02:57:00 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan13V112 Sat Jul 26 2:37:13 CDT 2008.