Re: the Bible, translation and gays

On Apr 24, 6:00=A0pm, rtdav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Apr 23, 8:16 pm, B <BGK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Classic response=3D85.
> So=3D85. you were just blurting random irrelevant thoughts. Sorry, I
> mistook it for some dazed response to something I may have said=3D85.

B - I read..I speak....relevancy is upon those that read them. You
don't think they are relevant...understood.

> Hmmm, I don=3D92t see any such disclaimer in what you wrote=3D85 it
reads =
like
> you were stating facts from what was written above. Note the statement
> forms-

snip*

B - iN almost every post I make I say "I believe" or "in my opinion"
either at the beginning of my post or at the end. This shows that it
is opinion. I only make statements of fact when I can be 99% sure of
them and even then I'm not totally into that as I am a subjectivist
and as Quantum physics has shown..you can change the outcome of
something just by observation....


> Can=3D92t individuals have an =3D96opinion- about something that is not
a
> matter of mere taste?

*snip

B - I believe so...but still opinions are subjective things so depend
on those making them.

> Perhaps one might have an opinion or a belief that the world is flat,
> not spherical. Would you still say he is not right or wrong?
>

B - I would'nt say he was right or wrong if it was his opinion and he
couched his answer thus...but if he said it as objective...I'd ask him
for proof.

> But on a deeper level, the statement- opinion can=3D92t be right or
wrong-=

> is itself a statement. Correct? But if it=3D92s a statement, it is wrong
> under your own theory because not everyone agrees with it=3D85.
> Or is it merely another opinion? Which CANNOT be either right or
> wrong=3D85 if so then your opinion that opinions are not right or wrong
> would therefore be neither right nor wrong and refutes itself.
> Either way, the idea is self-refuting. Granting it=3D92s only an
opinion,
> but it is a self-refuting incoherent opinion.
>
B - that's what I believe. However as I have said before...I tend to
couch my postings in I.M.O or what I believe etc. Point being I have
no stake in your believing in what I say or not. MIne is just to put
that thought out there for those that may think as I do..and have the
same sense of gnosis as I do. I'm not here to convince..just to share.
I have no need to pound someone over the head with my way...but to
just offer it up as another thought.

> > > Concerning separation:
> > > Jesus had a different opinion
>
> > B - actually no. The Bible says that Jesus had an opinion that you
> > interpreted in your way. This does not mean that Jesus actually had
> > that opinion.
>
> To quote you on this- actually, no - The bible itself does not say
> that Jesus had only -an opinion-

B - truth..my mistake. The Bible is written about the happennings
around a man named Jesus and whether that book is truth...literal or
figuratively or both...mistranslated...direct from God or not..is
always up to each of our opinions I believe. Someone who can't prove
something telling me I MUST believe in something they can't prove or
perish...is ridiculousness to me..but again..that's just me. I tend to
have a lot of faith in what I believe is God and don't believe that
God is that superficial or unloving.

My opinion is never to tear down the Bible or take anyone away from
their beliefs..but just to question things as I believe that God gave
us a mind to use. I love God and think the Bible a good book...not
perfect...not whole...not to be taken literally...but a good book. I
also don't think the "religion called Christianity" as opposed to
Christianity itself...is the only way to God. I live my
Christianity..I don't just read it or attend church and paste that
label on me...it is in my blood. Blessings B.