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Re: How Should We Respond to Homo***uality?

by Matthew Johnson <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 11:44 PM

In article <P2aQj.15011$Zk5.1706@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Radio Ron says...

>"Matthew Johnson" <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:KYSPj.6065$kt1.5405@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> In article <GvwPj.3847$wO1.3002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, RP says...

>>>"Matthew Johnson" <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>news:QuaPj.605$Y81.79@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>What are your reasons in believing it's not?


>>>> That it is not "hard-wired before birth"?

>>>> Three reasons:

>>>> 1) I have seen it change in persons I know

>>>> 2) I have heard others re****t it changed in persons _they_ know
>>>> (e.g., http://wday.ru/love/twopeople/relation****p/_article/2496/)

>>>> 3) the Bible itself makes it clear that there exist cases where it
>>>> changed
>>>> (see,
>>>> g.e., Rom 1:18-32.

>>>> These three reasons are reason enough to disbelieve all the many
>>>> irresponsible
>>>> voices claiming to have evidence for the impossible.


>>>Like Einstein said, theory is theory until you have the data to make it
a
>>>fact.

>> And you do not have the data to make it a fact.


>nor has matthew offerred any facts to sup****t his claim.

Not true. I have offered facts. They are right in front of you, yet
here you are denying their existence.

>someone here said it before....you are substituting "wishful thinking"
for
>real facts and data.

Speaking of "wishful thinking", you must have been indulging in it
heavily when you posted _that_ quote.

>otherwise, where are the multitude of success stories from these
ministries?

What 'multitude'? Why do you believe a _multitude_ is necessary to
disprove what I set out to disprove?

It isn't necessary. All I need is one case, that is enough to disprove
the grossly irresponsible claim that ***ual orientation is
hard-wired. And I have that one case, as you yourself admit below:

>well....maybe THAT person wasn't hard-wired that way....just
> confused.....

So why don't you just admit that they are wrong who say that ***ual
orientation is hard-wired?

>besides this "i know someone who...." isn't anyway to prove a point.

Sure, it is.


-- 
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
 




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How Should We Respond to Homo***uality?
A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-20 03:16:48 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-25 02:08:38 
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synthius2002@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-26 23:45:53 
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Bren <BGKent@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-28 01:47:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-31 02:35:13 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-31 02:35:16 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 02:35:14 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-31 02:35:16 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-01 01:41:49 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-01 01:41:51 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-04-01 01:41:52 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-04-01 01:41:52 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-04-01 01:41:52 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-02 02:10:02 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-02 02:10:02 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-02 02:10:02 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-02 02:10:03 
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Catherine Jefferson <s  2008-04-02 02:10:04 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-03 00:55:09 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-03 00:55:12 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-03 00:55:13 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-03 00:55:14 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-07 02:27:23 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-04-07 02:27:28 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-07 02:27:28 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-08 02:38:16 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-08 02:38:15 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-08 02:38:18 
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Joshua Holmes <jdholme  2008-04-08 02:38:20 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-04-09 00:16:29 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-09 00:16:30 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-09 00:16:30 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-10 03:58:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-10 03:58:15 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-11 02:10:56 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-14 00:29:36 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-18 04:49:35 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-21 02:10:46 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-04-22 00:41:19 
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jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-31 02:35:17 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-31 02:35:17 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-11 02:20:22 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-17 00:33:03 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-18 04:49:36 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-21 02:10:48 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-22 00:41:20 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-23 01:44:05 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-23 01:44:06 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-23 01:44:06 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-24 03:16:57 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-24 03:16:58 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-25 01:00:30 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-25 01:00:31 
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Radio Ron <dew1pk602@[  2008-04-25 01:00:31 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-25 01:00:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:30 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:30 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:34 

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