Re: the Bible, translation and gays

On Apr 23, 8:16 pm, B <BGK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > I would be interested to see how this has any
> > connection to what I was saying.
>
> B - who says it pertains to anything you have said.

Classic response=85.
So=85. you were just blurting random irrelevant thoughts. Sorry, I
mistook it for some dazed response to something I may have said=85.

> > > B - everyone believes that murder is a sin.....only SOME people
> > > believe that homo***uality is a sin. In that schism lies the truth.
> > > Think on that. God being within tells us what is wrong and
> > > right...even the most heinous of criminals knows that murder is
> > > wrong.
> > > One can never be apart from God..because God is not "over there" and
> > > outside or ourselves. To me this is the first thing that got us
> > > sinning...a belief in separation..a belief that all God is limited
and=

> > > cannot be within us or that God can pull itself out of God.
>
> > You call this sin. But using the principle you listed above, how
> > could this be defined as a sin? If homo***uality is not a sin because
> > not everyone recognizes it as sin, then how can the belief of a
> > separation of God and man be a sin? Clearly, not everyone feels this
> > way, therefore it is not a sin. It is self-defeating.
>
> B - I made a statement of subjectivity..I never said "this is" but I
> believe this is.

Hmmm, I don=92t see any such disclaimer in what you wrote=85 it reads like
you were stating facts from what was written above. Note the statement
forms-
Everyone believes that murder is a sin
Only some people believe that homo***uality is a sin
In that schism lies the truth
God being within us tells us what is wrong and right

Not one =96I believe=85or =96it=92s my opinion that=85.

> To me when there is a schism in many people then
> there is no "obvious" absolute. When we all agree...there is. I never
> state that all must believe me or they are in the wrong..I simply
> stated an opinion ....and opinions can't be right or wrong...this is
> like saying because I like chocolate more than vanilla..then I am
> wrong.

Can=92t individuals have an =96opinion- about something that is not a
matter of mere taste?
Perhaps one might have an opinion or a belief that the world is flat,
not spherical. Would you still say he is not right or wrong?

But on a deeper level, the statement- opinion can=92t be right or wrong-
is itself a statement. Correct? But if it=92s a statement, it is wrong
under your own theory because not everyone agrees with it=85.
Or is it merely another opinion? Which CANNOT be either right or
wrong=85 if so then your opinion that opinions are not right or wrong
would therefore be neither right nor wrong and refutes itself.
Either way, the idea is self-refuting. Granting it=92s only an opinion,
but it is a self-refuting incoherent opinion.


> > Concerning separation:
> > Jesus had a different opinion
>
> B - actually no. The Bible says that Jesus had an opinion that you
> interpreted in your way. This does not mean that Jesus actually had
> that opinion.

To quote you on this- actually, no - The bible itself does not say
that Jesus had only -an opinion-, the bible itself makes a
correspondence theory of truth statement.