Re: the Bible, translation and gays

On Apr 21, 5:41=A0pm, rtdav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Apr 16, 5:33 pm, B <BGK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > God is not the Bible and never will be...
> > again that is idolatry.
>
> True, but a straw man argument. I consider it completely irrelevant
> here.
> If you=3D92d like to detail precisely why you think it pertains to me or
> what I said, I=3D92d be interested in reading it.
be interested to see how this has any
> connection to what I was saying.

B - who says it pertains to anything you have said.

>
> > B - everyone believes that murder is a sin.....only SOME people
> > believe that homo***uality is a sin. In that schism lies the truth.
> > Think on that. God being within tells us what is wrong and
> > right...even the most heinous of criminals knows that murder is
> > wrong.
> > One can never be apart from God..because God is not "over there" and
> > outside or ourselves. To me this is the first thing that got us
> > sinning...a belief in separation..a belief that all God is limited and
> > cannot be within us or that God can pull itself out of God.
>
> You call this sin=3D85. But using the principle you listed above, how
> could this be defined as a sin? If homo***uality isn=3D92t a sin because
> not everyone recognizes it as sin, then how can the belief of a
> separation of God and man be a sin? Clearly, not everyone feels this
> way, therefore it can=3D92t be sin. It is self-defeating.

B - I made a statement of subjectivity..I never said "this is" but I
believe this is. To me when there is a schism in many people then
there is no "obvious" absolute. When we all agree...there is. I never
state that all must believe me or they are in the wrong..I simply
stated an opinion ....and opinions can't be right or wrong...this is
like saying because I like chocolate more than vanilla..then I am
wrong.


>
> A couple of things about what you said don=3D92t make sense to me.

B - that's fine I don't ask you to understand me totally.

> Concerning separation:
> Jesus had a different opinion

B - actually no. The Bible says that Jesus had an opinion that you
interpreted in your way. This does not mean that Jesus actually had
that opinion.

> Sorry, but Jesus tells us the natural state of man is without God.

B - again that is what you interpret the Bible as saying. This does
not make it so.

> And whatever God pulling himself out of God means, I=3D92ll need some
more=

> explanation, for that one.

B -  when you're ready you'll learn.

Bren