Re: How Should We Respond to Homo***uality?

In article <GvwPj.3847$wO1.3002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, RP says...
>
>"Matthew Johnson" <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:QuaPj.605$Y81.79@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>What are your reasons in believing it's not?
>>
>>
>> That it is not "hard-wired before birth"?
>>
>> Three reasons:
>>
>> 1) I have seen it change in persons I know
>>
>> 2) I have heard others re****t it changed in persons _they_ know
>> (e.g., http://wday.ru/love/twopeople/relation****p/_article/2496/)
>>
>> 3) the Bible itself makes it clear that there exist cases where it
changed 
>> (see,
>> g.e., Rom 1:18-32.
>>
>> These three reasons are reason enough to disbelieve all the many 
>> irresponsible
>> voices claiming to have evidence for the impossible.
>
>
>Like Einstein said, theory is theory until you have the data to make it a

>fact.

And you do not have the data to make it a fact.

>
>I think the overall failure rates of such "change" ministries is enough 
>evidence

We know you do. We knew this several posts ago. You add nothing to the
discussion by repeating this unproven and unprovable assertion.

> and reason enough to disbelieve people who pur****t to "know 
>someone" who changed.

No, it is not reason enough. But more im****tant, you miss the point: it
was
_you_ who claimed it is "hard-wired", so all it takes is ONE counter
example to
prove you wrong. And I gave such a counter example.

>
>Anyone see Ted Haggard?

Irrelevant, for reasons already explained.

>
>Anyone hear of the Catholic Church Crisis?

This is _also_ irrelevant, since it does not even concern whether or not
***ual
orientation is 'hard-wired'.

If you have to keep bringing up such inflammatory, yet totally irrelevant
points, then you can only succeed in one thing: persuading the rest of the
NG
that you have not got a leg to stand on, so you have to keep on resorting
to
"red herrings".


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