On Apr 20, 7:10 pm, B <BGK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In my interpretation of what I consider to be Christ within saying is
> that the first sin we have ever committed was believing in the lie of
> separation. As manifestations of Gods whole being made in Gods image
> we overly indentified with the creation ..the variations of the
> macrocosm in microcosm form. We started to compare...to see God
----->there and us -----> there and failed to see how we were still ONE in
a multitude of variety.
I believe you just declared yourself a pantheist. There is nothing
wrong with being a pantheist. All the pantheists I have known were
splendid people. And so on.
The difficulty with pantheism seems to me to be that it is not
factually true.
In other words, what you call the lie of separation is not a lie. It
is a fact.
Of course, it all depends on what one means by "separation".
Consider what happens when one meditates and one experiences god. The
pantheistic tradition, and it has been very strong throughout history,
experiences god as an a overwhelming wave, a sea, an ocean of love.
And what I see when I look at the pantheist tradition is a wish to
return to the womb. As I see it, the god of the pantheists is a great
womb and the pantheist goal is to be incor****ated once again in a
womb.
I believe that the pantheist tradition is a garden path and that god
indeed is separate from us. One measure of our separation is that god
is not in our physical space or time. But god is everywhere about us
in a non-physical sense. God is easy enough to contact and all kinds
of mystics do it constantly. I believe that they have reached the real
god when they feel contact with a divine person who is other than
themselves. Contact with god is immensely non-physical and it is
impossible to describe the experience by more than mere hints and
allegories. The only way to understand is to go make contact with god
for yourself.
Trying to understand all this by reading books - old or new - or
listening to preachers is futile and unproductive.
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