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Re: the Bible, translation and gays

by rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 22, 2008 at 12:41 AM

On Apr 16, 5:33 pm, B <BGK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> God is not the Bible and never will be...
> again that is idolatry.

True, but a straw man argument. I consider it completely irrelevant
here.
If you=92d like to detail precisely why you think it pertains to me or
what I said, I=92d be interested in reading it.

This would actually be interesting. Detail an argument as to why this
is true. What are the premises that must exist in order for one to
reach this conclusion, and then let=92s see if anything I did qualifies
as fitting those premises. I=92d be interested to see how this has any
connection to what I was saying.

> B - everyone believes that murder is a sin.....only SOME people
> believe that homo***uality is a sin. In that schism lies the truth.
> Think on that. God being within tells us what is wrong and
> right...even the most heinous of criminals knows that murder is
> wrong.
> One can never be apart from God..because God is not "over there" and
> outside or ourselves. To me this is the first thing that got us
> sinning...a belief in separation..a belief that all God is limited and
> cannot be within us or that God can pull itself out of God.

You call this sin=85. But using the principle you listed above, how
could this be defined as a sin? If homo***uality isn=92t a sin because
not everyone recognizes it as sin, then how can the belief of a
separation of God and man be a sin? Clearly, not everyone feels this
way, therefore it can=92t be sin. It is self-defeating.

A couple of things about what you said don=92t make sense to me.
a belief in separation
a belief that all God is limited
and cannot be within us or
that God can pull itself out of God.

I=92m not seeing much connection between these things

Concerning separation:
Jesus had a different opinion=85. He said =93if anyone loves me, he will
OBEY my teaching, my Father will love him and we will come to him and
make our home with him=94 note the conditional=85. IF =85.Then.
Sorry, but Jesus tells us the natural state of man is without God. IF
we are to have God within us, there is a requirement: Love him by
obeying his teaching.

Of course separation doesn=92t mean God is limited, but I do feel even
God has limits, it just has nothing to do with separation=85.
However his limits do not mean that he cannot be within us, only that
certain conditions must be met.
And whatever God pulling himself out of God means, I=92ll need some more
explanation, for that one.
 




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the Bible, translation and gays
shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-08 02:38:19 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-11 02:20:28 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 00:29:36 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-18 04:49:35 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-22 00:41:20 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-24 03:16:59 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-25 01:00:32 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 23:44:34 
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hedrick@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-14 00:48:24 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-17 00:33:01 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-18 04:49:36 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-21 02:10:45 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-23 01:44:05 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-24 03:16:58 
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hedrick@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-24 03:16:58 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-24 03:16:59 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-25 01:00:31 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-25 01:00:32 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-25 01:00:32 
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lsenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-25 01:00:32 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-27 23:44:35 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-01 00:44:39 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 02:44:32 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-05-05 01:43:06 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 01:36:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-05-08 01:43:46 

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