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Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?

by rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 14, 2008 at 12:29 AM

On Apr 10, 7:20=A0pm, AJA <ahnem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I've been lightly following this thread. =A0My question is, what in
heaven=
's
> name does the number of references in the Bible have to do with a
person's=

> getting heaven or avoiding hell? =A0Blessings,
> Ann

nothing ann.
But perhaps following the thread lightly, you've missed what is going
on...
There is a battle now [as there has been for some time] over the
acceptance of what the bible says.
Note what DKleinecke said above:
"it is foolish to read the gospels as though they were somehow
"truth". They are human do***ents"

There is an attempt to remove the concept of hell and judgment from
the bible all together because it is unpleasant.
Some in the church simply will not teach on it, considering it a
harmful concept. Perhaps they mean well, but in thier human wisdom,
they are destroying the essence of christianity.

I'm certain some people are going to be REALLY upset that I said that,
and they are going to assume that I'm saying the essence of
christianity is hell and judgment, which I'm not. The essence of
christianity is love and redemption.
But love and redemption only make sense in the context. Gods love is
great because of what he has done for us: he has saved us from our
sins and redeemed us from sin and death. remove sin, judgment and
hell, and what you essentially have left is nothing.

I'm not really trying to stress hell and judgment over love, but i'll
say it again; unless we understand our condition- that we are sinners
and are separated from God because of that sin, we cannot see the
greatness of his love and the salvation he offers.
strip that away and all God becomes is a benevolent grandpa that sort
of smiles on what we do.
 




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Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Jacob <jninan@[EMAIL P  2008-03-25 02:08:38 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-26 23:45:53 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-03-28 01:47:28 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 02:35:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-31 02:35:14 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-31 02:35:14 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-01 01:41:50 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-02 02:09:57 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-03 00:55:13 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-07 02:27:23 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-07 02:27:24 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-07 02:27:25 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-07 02:27:27 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-08 02:38:18 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-08 02:38:19 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-09 00:16:29 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-09 00:16:30 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-10 03:58:12 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-11 02:20:21 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-11 02:20:26 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-14 00:29:28 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 00:29:39 
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rtdavide@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-14 00:29:39 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-18 04:49:36 
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Eric Bohn <bsee_1991@[  2008-05-01 00:44:39 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-02 02:44:33 
Re: Whatever happened to conviction of sins?
Eric Bohn <bsee_1991@[  2008-05-08 01:43:46 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 01:44:50 

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