On Apr 6, 7:27 pm, AJA <ahnem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "B" <BGK...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> news:SVVIj.20940$Ps1.8736@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> But I still fail go understandf why a person would pattern their
lives on
> >> a
> >> Pagan Christ or a Pagan Jesus. And I still don't understand the very
> >> terms.
> >> Blessings,
> >> Ann
>
> > B = pagan comes from the latin paganus which was used by the Romans to
> > put down the simple country folk who did not wor****p the way they and
> > the city folk did. It was later used to mean anyone not of the
> > Abrahamic faiths.
>
> Thank you. I have a dictionary also.
>
> >The Pagan Christ refers to the idea that Jesus's
> > STORY was not truly his but put upon him by those who wanted to take
> > away the wor****p of Mithras, Apollo, Dionysus...any of the solar or
> > agricultural gods...and put it on him to get more people to accept him
> > as beyond human..but a god.
>
> New age pap. And not just my opinion.
B - perhaps some others too...but still an opinion as it can't be
proven anymore than the literal take on the Bible can be.
>
> >Since in those days no one thought a man
> > could be a god...they felt the need to make Jesus less human and more
> > God-like. Whether his story was applied later on or the truth....there
> > are some Christians who have this view.
>
> No. They are not Christians who have this view. This is not even the
> "merest" Christianity, Brenda.
B - Oh there are many Christians who have this view. If you think it
is not Christianity..then again..this is your view and some others but
not all.
I'm honestly puzzled as to where you would
> get this stuff, or why you would continue to bring it here. God bless
you.
B - I am open to Christ and go where it leads. Why I would bring it
here is because this is a Christian newsgroup.
> But this is the most simplistic, silly 'faith', and I doubt it is faith.
> Sounds like a childrens fairy story.
>
B - to some the idea of a God creating Eve from a rib...wondering
where Adam was in the garden one day when there are only two there and
he has to look? etc. can seem like the most Fairy-ish of fairy
stories. Simplistic? I don't agree. Faith? I don't know if it is a
"faith" per se as in an actual kind of Christianity or just that some
believe in it as a possibility. I don't personally go around calling
other faiths "silly" as I believe everyone has a right to their own
take of God and religion. I believe that if you want respect then you
must give respect. Whether "new age" or "silly story" ...it is
someone's belief and in that I respect them.
> >We have little in the way of
> > proof for either..so it comes down to what you believe and what you
> > know from within.
>
> The most basic course in logic might be helpful. Think very seriously
where
> such a statement leads one: I believe that mice inhabit the sky and are
> sent to watch us. Now, you believe me, right, Benda, because I tell you
I
> believe it and it comes from within.
B - No....I give you the right to your own belief though as I don't
ask anyone to agree with me but that I have my own way. I've not yet
asked anyone to go my way...just that this is what I believe and that
one can't speak for all Christians.
You see, this is the very reason the
> Christian doesn't just go off in a field somewhere and do some private
> 'wor****pping' feeling enlightened that they have something that comes
from
> the _self_, from what _a_ person believes. That is a religion of the
self,
> Brenda. And the 'self' dies. This is why Christian herr on this list
and
> Christians everywhere are wor****pping _in community_, be it RC,
Orthodox,
> Methodist, etc. These are _churches_. They are not off the wall
separate
> entities. They are traditional, reasonable, experiencial as in
Christian
> communal experience, and they are scriptural.
B - which in itself does not make it truth..but one experience of
Christ. An interpretation and then push of that interp as the only one
is a subjective personal thing ...very much the self as anything else
is. A building does not make that rendition of Christ anymore so...nor
does doing it in a group. It is just one way.
What being a Christian does
> _not_ mean is that you get to go around teaching, leading people,
preaching,
> what you and you alone, apart from tradition or any other church
authority
> believe Christ is and is not.
B - so truth is only more so when a select number of people serving as
priests go around telling you what is what? you believe that the
majority based on what Paul said..makes it so? what certain priests,
King James said was true? You don't see God as within? then you are
saying that God is limited for he/she/it stops at you?
There is no reality whatsoever in a 'pagan
> Jesus" or "pagan Christ".
>
B - such is your opinion my friend.
> Blessing to you, Bren. Please continue to study, and understand
> Christianity, the orthodox kind- as we all are very much trying to
> understand where you are coming from.
> Blessings,
> Ann
B - blessings upon you too Ann. Please continue to study and
understand Christianity from Christ itself and not needing any
intermediary to tell you what is real and not...or not. "We are all?"
you don't speak for all Christians here do you Ann? I speak my beliefs
in a
Christian newsgroup as do you. Your way is the wide road..mine is
not..this is where we differ. I wor****p Christ because I love
Christ..not because the larger crowd peer pressures me into it or any
such thing..but it is a real belief and love and personal experience.
If I wanted to do the orthodox kind I would go find a literal
biblicist group and not an all encompassing Christian one. I have no
problem with you being here...I ask only that you accept me as you
would like to be accepted. hugs, B
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