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Re: How Should We Respond to Homo***uality?

by Matthew Johnson <matthew_member@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 3, 2008 at 12:55 AM

In article <ApgIj.12494$oE1.485@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Dave says...
>
>On Mar 30, 9:35=A0pm, shegeek72 <karmictara...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> To anyone who still thinks being gay is a choice: do you honestly
>> think someone would voluntarily subject him or herself to potential
>> taunting, ostracizing, discrimination, verbal or physical violence,
>> even murder? It just doesn't make sense and when something doesn't
>> make sense it usually isn't true.
>
>People make all kinds of illogical decisions that lead to their
>suffering. I'm sure that you can name a few right off the top of your
>head. Why do you think a decision to be gay is different? That's
>illogical!

In Tara's case, the reason would be because Tara does not believe it is a
_decision_ in the first place. And indeed, if you accept the commonly held
notion of what the human will is, this is the _natural_ conclusion. But
this is
exactly why it is _so_ im****tant to go _beyond_ the commonly held notion,
and
realize what "free-will" really means. But Calvinism confuses many people,
keeping them _far_ away from this understanding.


-- 
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
 




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How Should We Respond to Homo***uality?
A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-20 03:16:48 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-25 02:08:38 
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synthius2002@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-26 23:45:53 
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Bren <BGKent@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-28 01:47:27 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-03-31 02:35:13 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-31 02:35:16 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 02:35:14 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-31 02:35:15 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-03-31 02:35:16 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-01 01:41:49 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-01 01:41:51 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-04-01 01:41:52 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-04-01 01:41:52 
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Dave <dave_and_darla@[  2008-04-01 01:41:52 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-02 02:10:02 
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DKleinecke <dkleinecke  2008-04-02 02:10:02 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-02 02:10:02 
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AJA <ahnemann@[EMAIL P  2008-04-02 02:10:03 
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Catherine Jefferson <s  2008-04-02 02:10:04 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-03 00:55:09 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-03 00:55:12 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-03 00:55:13 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-03 00:55:14 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-07 02:27:23 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-04-07 02:27:28 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-07 02:27:28 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-08 02:38:16 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-08 02:38:15 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-08 02:38:18 
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Joshua Holmes <jdholme  2008-04-08 02:38:20 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-04-09 00:16:29 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-09 00:16:30 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-09 00:16:30 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-10 03:58:13 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-10 03:58:15 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-11 02:10:56 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-14 00:29:36 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-17 00:33:02 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-18 04:49:35 
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B <BGKent@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-21 02:10:46 
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**Rowland Croucher** <  2008-04-22 00:41:19 
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jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-31 02:35:17 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-07 02:27:29 
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jjsargent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-31 02:35:17 
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Antares 531 <gordonlrD  2008-04-11 02:20:22 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-17 00:33:03 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-18 04:49:36 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-21 02:10:48 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-22 00:41:20 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-23 01:44:05 
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shegeek72 <karmictarag  2008-04-23 01:44:06 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-23 01:44:06 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-24 03:16:57 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-24 03:16:58 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-25 01:00:30 
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A Brown <Rob@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-25 01:00:31 
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Radio Ron <dew1pk602@[  2008-04-25 01:00:31 
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RP <rpalino@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-25 01:00:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:30 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:30 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:33 
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Matthew Johnson <matth  2008-04-27 23:44:34 

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